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11t
08-05-2005, 03:15 PM
Table is semi-tight but the BB is gonna be coming along with any two probably.

Any suggestions?

Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6

Hero: $1045
Seat 8: $945
Seat 10: $2414
Seat 2: $1776
Seat 5: $1600
Seat 6: $220
Level:4 Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero[ 8s 8d ]
Hero...

UMTerp
08-05-2005, 03:20 PM
I think pushing and folding are close enough that it doesn't really matter which you do. Any other play is bad IMO. I usually push here, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.

11t
08-05-2005, 03:22 PM
Yah, SNG PT says it is barely +EV and extremely marginal. I'm just curious to hear what people say.

mosdef
08-05-2005, 04:06 PM
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Yah, SNG PT says it is barely +EV and extremely marginal. I'm just curious to hear what people say.

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are you assuming BB will call with almost any 2? He just may given his stack.

DyessMan89
08-05-2005, 04:15 PM
Its close, but I push here.

schwza
08-05-2005, 04:26 PM
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Yah, SNG PT says it is barely +EV and extremely marginal. I'm just curious to hear what people say.

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people who write things like this without specifying ranges make me a little ill. is the SB calling any broadway? any two? only AA? nah, that's probably not important or anything.

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The Venetian
08-05-2005, 04:26 PM
I push, but I don't particularly like it. I wouldn't argue with someone wanting to fold.

schwza
08-05-2005, 04:26 PM
i'd be inclined to push. others should give your push a little extra respect b/c you know you're going to showdown.

there's also a chance BB will make a horrible fold.

DarrenX
08-05-2005, 04:42 PM
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I think pushing and folding are close enough that it doesn't really matter which you do. Any other play is bad IMO. I usually push here, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.

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What about raising to 275 here? You're (albeit slightly) over 10x blinds so you have a litte room to maneuver... if they're tight they're not going ott with something you can beat so fold to a raise. Otherwise, they may just call with something like AQo and check down (assuming the BB comes along).

mhcmarty
08-05-2005, 05:08 PM
I'd probably push trying to get heads-up with the BB. If the table is fairly tight they'll see what your trying to do and stay out of the way. Not even AA wants to go 3 way.

08-05-2005, 05:13 PM
I might be inclined to fold them here. Unless you don't think you can get past the other players at the table with your current stack, I just hate pushing UTG with a hand which is at best a coin-flip against a wide range of hands. Sure, you might either get lucky and get called by Ax small or a smaller pocket pair, but on the other hand what happens to you when someone acting behind you re-raises all-in with JJ? Your hand isn't strong enough to allow you to move in with impunity, so I'd strongly consider folding it if you think you're good enough to win with a below-average stack. Otherwise, push and pray.

Roland32
08-05-2005, 06:07 PM
I dont see why not a standard raise to 300 if reraised then fold
and u dont mind a call from BB.

mhcmarty
08-05-2005, 06:19 PM
Your just asking to get played with by one of the bigger stacks behind you. Better players with stacks, love to come in behind semi-weak raises and outplay the opponent post-flop. What do you do post flop out of position when a face card hits assuming you got called.

Freudian
08-05-2005, 06:23 PM
Close but push. I don't mind BB calling. In fact it is what makes this a push rather than a fold.

Roland32
08-05-2005, 06:37 PM
If u get called you push unless the flop is really scary. I still think the best play is a standard raise and fold to reraise and stop and go to any callers. I play only on Pokerstars and I know stacks are deeper so there is more oppurtunity to make plays like this. But even w the stacks mentioned I still think its the best play.