Passive line with TPGK on paired board. [Archive]

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kongo_totte

08-04-2005, 11:59 PM

No reads on villian whose just been around for an orbit. Table is very loose and bad though.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB ($47.93)
BB ($54.20)
UTG ($47.72)
UTG+1 ($33.40)
MP1 ($49.50)
MP2 ($73.35)
MP3 ($42.95)
CO ($122.02)
Hero ($80.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25. CO posts a blind of $0.75.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, CO (poster) checks, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
BB bets $2, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($6.50) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($14.50) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $6, Hero calls $6.

Final Pot: $26.50

Thoughts?

Malachii

08-05-2005, 01:21 AM

Seems like a standard WA/WB situation. You played it perfectly.

foldem

08-05-2005, 01:26 AM

Why not raise the turn and check behind on the river. If he reraises you can easily fold and if he gets tricky and leads on a tough river like the ace you can fold too. As played you have to call a river bet hoping to chop.

kongo_totte

08-05-2005, 01:26 AM

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WA/WB .

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Ok, here is some other Lingo I don't understand.

kongo_totte

08-05-2005, 01:28 AM

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Why not raise the turn and check behind on the river. If he reraises you can easily fold and if he gets tricky and leads on a tough river like the ace you can fold too. As played you have to call a river bet hoping to chop.

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I really don't see what good comes from raising the turn. I am way ahead or way behind and nothing I beat is likely to call a raise. Might aswell call and let him block the river with a weaker king.

Malachii

08-05-2005, 01:32 AM

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Ok, here is some other Lingo I don't understand.

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Sorry, it's the limit hold'em player in me. Way ahead/way behind basically means you're crushed by him or you're way ahead of him and don't really fear giving him free cards.
This is a good example. If he has an 8, you're beaten and want to lose the minimum, if he has a weaker king, you'd like him to keep betting. Thus, just calling his bets/betting if he checks is the best way to play this hand in my opinion.

foldem

08-05-2005, 01:40 AM

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I really don't see what good comes from raising the turn.

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You can raise the turn for value. If you think your opponent is donkish enough to bet into you on the flop and turn with a weak king then he must be donkish enough to call a raise with it. I don't see how blindly calling down is a better line.

By the way you know that you aren't ahead of a weak king on the river anymore and you have to call a bet hoping to chop right?

kongo_totte

08-05-2005, 01:43 AM

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By the way you know that you aren't ahead of a weak king on the river anymore and you have to call a bet hoping to chop right?

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Yes

foldem

08-05-2005, 01:48 AM

Note that making a nice prelop raise in position makes this hand a lot easier to play.

kongo_totte

08-05-2005, 09:12 AM

He has K 6o and we chop.

swolfe

08-05-2005, 09:55 AM

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Note that making a nice prelop raise in position makes this hand a lot easier to play.

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i agree...i'd raise this every time.

the 9

08-05-2005, 11:42 AM

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i agree...i'd raise this every time.

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Also agree with this - but as it stands, just call him down.