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mikech
08-04-2005, 08:45 PM
my question is not about running it multiple times but, rather, whether it's allowed to not run it at all. for example, in a 10-20 game with a 2k stack, you raise AA utg to 100, get a couple callers, button reraises to 600, you push and button calls. he has KK, and to reduce variance (or because you only brought 1 buy-in with you to this cardroom, or many other reasons and factors) you decide you're willing to sacrifice a few percentage points of ev, so you offer to give him 20% of the pot, the cards are never run and it's on to the next hand. is a deal like this kosher?
mgsimpleton
08-04-2005, 08:50 PM
as long as you don't do it while drinking milk, sure.
Ulysses
08-04-2005, 08:54 PM
Yup.
jrforman
08-04-2005, 08:55 PM
I have had two similar experiences with this situation, once in a Detroit casino and once in AC...Both times the players were not allowed to "do business" at the table. Both casinos wanted to protect against collusion.
mikech
08-04-2005, 09:22 PM
when i was a kid i once walked into a deli and asked for a pastrami and swiss on rye, the guy told me they were a kosher deli, and i was like, "ok...and?"

so i guess it could be room-dependent whether this kind of deal is allowed; for jrforman, which a/c casino were you in that didn't allow it?
Dr. StrangeloveX
08-05-2005, 10:14 AM
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I have had two similar experiences with this situation, once in a Detroit casino and once in AC...Both times the players were not allowed to "do business" at the table. Both casinos wanted to protect against collusion.

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"Er, in that case can we run it 100 times?"
redtrain
08-05-2005, 10:25 AM
As long as its not a tourney, I can't see any valid objections. If you were "colluding" wouldn't you just chop the money later anyway?

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my question is not about running it multiple times but, rather, whether it's allowed to not run it at all. for example, in a 10-20 game with a 2k stack, you raise AA utg to 100, get a couple callers, button reraises to 600, you push and button calls. he has KK, and to reduce variance (or because you only brought 1 buy-in with you to this cardroom, or many other reasons and factors) you decide you're willing to sacrifice a few percentage points of ev, so you offer to give him 20% of the pot, the cards are never run and it's on to the next hand. is a deal like this kosher?

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TheWorstPlayer
08-05-2005, 10:27 AM
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If you were "colluding" wouldn't you just chop the money later anyway?


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Someone's put a lot of thought into this.