Bleh... This is How Someone Plays Who is Off Their Game

[KramerTM]

Me... not the other guy. I need to read that gigabet post again... I'm letting it all slip away. Where did I go most wrong on this hand?

***** Hand History for Game 2478343209 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14546858 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, August 04, 19:38:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 13852 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 9: huntzbirdiez ( $695 )
Seat 5: ibilop ( $460 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $1025 )
Seat 7: Cubman1982 ( $1550 )
Seat 3: sag02 ( $1080 )
Seat 10: GenaM ( $775 )
Seat 4: Buckeyedream ( $440 )
Seat 1: Kendrick999 ( $550 )
Seat 8: walter84 ( $770 )
Seat 2: lek36 ( $655 )
Trny:14546858 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac Jc ]
lek36 folds.
sag02 folds.
Buckeyedream folds.
ibilop folds.
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
Hero calls [30].
Cubman1982 calls [30].
walter84 calls [30].
huntzbirdiez calls [30].
GenaM folds.
Kendrick999 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 2c, Js ]
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
Kendrick999 checks.
Hero bets [100].
Cubman1982 calls [100].
walter84 calls [100].
huntzbirdiez calls [100].
Kendrick999 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
Hero checks.
Cubman1982 checks.
walter84 checks.
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
huntzbirdiez is all-In [565]
Hero is all-In [895]
Cubman1982 folds.
walter84 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
Hero shows [ Ac, Jc ] a pair of jacks.
huntzbirdiez shows [ 5s, Qs ] a flush, queen high.
Hero wins 330 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks.
huntzbirdiez wins 1695 chips from the main pot with a flush, queen high.

[yabastid]

on the turn.

[microbet]

I would fold on the turn, but it would be tempting.

I would have raised preflop.

[rohjoh]

[ QUOTE ]
Me... not the other guy. I need to read that gigabet post again... I'm letting it all slip away. Where did I go most wrong on this hand?

***** Hand History for Game 2478343209 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14546858 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, August 04, 19:38:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 13852 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 9: huntzbirdiez ( $695 )
Seat 5: ibilop ( $460 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $1025 )
Seat 7: Cubman1982 ( $1550 )
Seat 3: sag02 ( $1080 )
Seat 10: GenaM ( $775 )
Seat 4: Buckeyedream ( $440 )
Seat 1: Kendrick999 ( $550 )
Seat 8: walter84 ( $770 )
Seat 2: lek36 ( $655 )
Trny:14546858 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac Jc ]
lek36 folds.
sag02 folds.
Buckeyedream folds.
ibilop folds.
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
Hero calls [30].
Cubman1982 calls [30].
walter84 calls [30].
huntzbirdiez calls [30].
GenaM folds.
Kendrick999 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 2c, Js ]
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
Kendrick999 checks.
Hero bets [100].
Cubman1982 calls [100].
walter84 calls [100].
huntzbirdiez calls [100].
Kendrick999 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
Hero checks.
Cubman1982 checks.
walter84 checks.
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
huntzbirdiez is all-In [565]
Hero is all-In [895]
Cubman1982 folds.
walter84 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
Hero shows [ Ac, Jc ] a pair of jacks.
huntzbirdiez shows [ 5s, Qs ] a flush, queen high.
Hero wins 330 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks.
huntzbirdiez wins 1695 chips from the main pot with a flush, queen high.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you limping here? Either raise pre flop or fold. If you would have raised pre flop, say 85 chips, guy with Qs5s folds. I would pot the flop, but since you did not raise preflop, you cant be sure some jackass with J8 did not limp in, so you bet 100, and get 5 callers. When the Q hits, since you played it so bad up to this point, you need to check fold, because one of those players you let into the hand has you beat. So you pretty much played every stage wrong.

[KramerTM]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Me... not the other guy. I need to read that gigabet post again... I'm letting it all slip away. Where did I go most wrong on this hand?

***** Hand History for Game 2478343209 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14546858 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, August 04, 19:38:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 13852 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 9: huntzbirdiez ( $695 )
Seat 5: ibilop ( $460 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $1025 )
Seat 7: Cubman1982 ( $1550 )
Seat 3: sag02 ( $1080 )
Seat 10: GenaM ( $775 )
Seat 4: Buckeyedream ( $440 )
Seat 1: Kendrick999 ( $550 )
Seat 8: walter84 ( $770 )
Seat 2: lek36 ( $655 )
Trny:14546858 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ac Jc ]
lek36 folds.
sag02 folds.
Buckeyedream folds.
ibilop folds.
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
Hero calls [30].
Cubman1982 calls [30].
walter84 calls [30].
huntzbirdiez calls [30].
GenaM folds.
Kendrick999 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, 2c, Js ]
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
Kendrick999 checks.
Hero bets [100].
Cubman1982 calls [100].
walter84 calls [100].
huntzbirdiez calls [100].
Kendrick999 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
Hero checks.
Cubman1982 checks.
walter84 checks.
>You have options at Table 13815 Table!.
huntzbirdiez is all-In [565]
Hero is all-In [895]
Cubman1982 folds.
walter84 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Ts ]
Hero shows [ Ac, Jc ] a pair of jacks.
huntzbirdiez shows [ 5s, Qs ] a flush, queen high.
Hero wins 330 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of jacks.
huntzbirdiez wins 1695 chips from the main pot with a flush, queen high.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you limping here? Either raise pre flop or fold. If you would have raised pre flop, say 85 chips, guy with Qs5s folds. I would pot the flop, but since you did not raise preflop, you cant be sure some jackass with J8 did not limp in, so you bet 100, and get 5 callers. When the Q hits, since you played it so bad up to this point, you need to check fold, because one of those players you let into the hand has you beat. So you pretty much played every stage wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

No one else limps here? I don't agree with a raise PF. I'd rather fold.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

you definitely should have folded the turn. pre-flop... I don't know, sometimes I limp, sometimes I bet... depends if I am Dr Jeckyl... or Mr Hyde... /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[hyde]

[ QUOTE ]
you definitely should have folded the turn. pre-flop... I don't know, sometimes I limp, sometimes I bet... depends if I am Dr Jeckyl... or Mr Hyde... ;
)

[/ QUOTE ]

what he said.

[durron597]

Raise preflop. It's not like you're UTG.

[rohjoh]

I think folding is better than limping, since you are out of position. You gain nothing from limping. If you raise, you at least gain information about your opponents hand, and weed out the limpers with hands like Qs5s. Look what happened when you limped, you got a four way pot, which is not what you want with a hand like AJ. Why are you going to let people see a free/cheap flop when your hand is much better than two random cards? What is the worst that could happen if you raise PF here? Could not be any worse than what happened when you limped... I would rank your options raise, fold, limp.