I think I'm just gonna have a regular job next summer

[ClaytonN]

...seriously, when I look at things.

Let's say I take two-three months off from poker to get things together at college 1st semester freshman year.

At this point, I'll prob have about $1750 net worth (I just bought an ipod mini).

The most I can see risking out of this would be $300ish, and it would have to involve .5/1.

At this point, is there really any point at all, when you take the time I could be playing poker and put it towards other stuff, like working out more, studying, etc.?

If I had a higher level of seed money (if that's how you put it), I could understand taking some time to play some extra poker to get some extra spending money. But right now my roll would be so low, that the EV that would come from making that wouldn't match other things in life that is more EV, so to speak.

This means I have to have a normal job next summer, I think. Maybe by next fall I could take aside an extra $1k and make something of it, but not this fall.

[wackjob]

I think I posted this some time back, but it is relevant. I hadn't played at party poker for like 6+ months and they sent me an e-mail saying they put 50 bucks in my account, and I could withdraw it after I mad X amount of player points. That 50 bucks started me playing at 1/2 tables. Having been playing 5/10 & 10/20 on other sites, I dominated these games(I'm sure I had a good streak too, I made like 17bb/100 over 500 hands). As soon as I hit 500 bucks I jumped into 3/6 games(2/4 didn't have 6-handed). As soon as I hit 1 grand I jumped right into the 5/10 and w/o a single deposit to Party Poker in almost a year I've turned that 50 bucks into about 10 grand.

The point of the story is not bragging. 300 bucks, if you are a competent & skilled player, is plenty to play 1/2. 500-1000 is a good BR for 2/4 & 3/6. At the 2500+ level I am quite comfortable playing 5/10. How long would it take to make 300 bucks into 2500? If you are on a streak.. maybe a week? If you have to work a bit at it.. maybe 3 or 4 weeks. Point is.. playing 5/10 you can make 500/week with ease if you are a solid player. To hell with a worthless part-time job that pays 8/hr or whatever.

[PLOlover]

Just so you know, you can easily make 1000 in bonuses between the best poker rooms you havent done yet and the best casino bonuses.

[MEbenhoe]

[ QUOTE ]
I think I posted this some time back, but it is relevant. I hadn't played at party poker for like 6+ months and they sent me an e-mail saying they put 50 bucks in my account, and I could withdraw it after I mad X amount of player points. That 50 bucks started me playing at 1/2 tables. Having been playing 5/10 & 10/20 on other sites, I dominated these games(I'm sure I had a good streak too, I made like 17bb/100 over 500 hands). As soon as I hit 500 bucks I jumped into 3/6 games(2/4 didn't have 6-handed). As soon as I hit 1 grand I jumped right into the 5/10 and w/o a single deposit to Party Poker in almost a year I've turned that 50 bucks into about 10 grand.

The point of the story is not bragging.

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It obviously is, because its obviously fake. I find it funny that people seem to get off on posting fake stories of how great they are. Hope you enjoyed it.

[wackjob]

"It obviously is, because its obviously fake. I find it funny that people seem to get off on posting fake stories of how great they are. Hope you enjoyed it."

You are a retard. There is nothing remotely unbelieavable about what happened. A little luck with a 50 dollar bonus went a long ways. Since that deposit I have level'd off at ~2.4bb/100 @ 5/10 on PP. Maybe you have some inferiority complex about your own play that makes this unbelievable for you, who knows. The story wasn't to illustrate greatness or poker ability, the story was to illustrate that a small starting amount has a lot of potential. Obviously there was some luck involved(huge winrate over 500 hands at 1/2), but my original point remains to the original poster: $300 seed money could easily become 1000's in a months time.

[MEbenhoe]

I showed your post to two other posters and within 30 seconds they both gave me the same reason as to why your post was obviously fake. Next time be more careful that you fact check your stories.

[someguy123]

i turned a freeroll winning ( 11 euro ) into 9000 euro in less than a month. i dont care if you believe it or not..

but on the other story why it would be fake, the only reason i can think is that party usually(only?) give away 100 dollar and not 50.. atleast they did to me.

[shadow29]

Jobs are for pussies.

Play poker. By next summer you should be at higher limits and earning far more than you would by working construction.

But if you get an internship to put on your resume in your field of choice, then do that and play poker at night for $$.

[TStoneMBD]

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I think I'm just gonna have a regular job next summer

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Fall to the darkside you must not.

[CaptSensible]

I personally think your idea is a good one. Being at college affords you all sorts of opportunities. Devoting yourself to poker, imho, shouldn't be one of them.

[wackjob]

Dear (CENSORED),

You have been awarded a bonus amount of 50.00 dollars and the money has been added into your account. You can use this bonus amount to play at Party Poker. However, if you wish to cashout the 50.00 dollars, you will need to 300 before 29-MAY-2005 EST.


I guess it hasn't been but about 4 months. 10K/4 months, not bad for starting with a 50 dollar reload enticer.

[octop]

If you move3d up after 500 hands of 1/2 winning 17bb/100 wouldnt that leave with you with 220 dollars not 500?

[capone0]

It doesn't say he jumped after 500 hands, it says over 1 stretch he averaged 17 bb/100 hands. I've done it as well, maybe even higher at 6 max (then got creamed for 300 hands).

[RunDownHouse]

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But right now my roll would be so low, that the EV that would come from making that wouldn't match other things in life that is more EV, so to speak.

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For one thing, you'll have a [censored] load of free time at school, so I don't think it will be a problem to play an hour here and an hour there.

In addition, I think you're underestimating the EV of playing. The other poster's story may be BS, but the basic gist is a very good point: you should be able to move up eventually, maybe sooner, maybe later. It sounds like you're thinking that the PV of playing .5/1 isn't worth it, but the EV is much, much higher because you could reasonably expect to be at 5/10 by next June.

If I can work a job for 60 hours a week, maintain a social life, and stay in good health, all while playing poker, you can easily go to college and do the same.

[gonores]

Clayton,

I'm too lazy to look though your posts to confirm, and I'm too inconsiderate to devote your level of talent to the forefront property area of my memory, but the backyard area of my memory is telling me that I've read enough to know you don't suck at poker. If this is true, there should be plenty of money out there for you for staking purposes.

[TomCollins]

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I think I posted this some time back, but it is relevant. I hadn't played at party poker for like 6+ months and they sent me an e-mail saying they put 50 bucks in my account, and I could withdraw it after I mad X amount of player points. That 50 bucks started me playing at 1/2 tables. Having been playing 5/10 & 10/20 on other sites, I dominated these games(I'm sure I had a good streak too, I made like 17bb/100 over 500 hands). As soon as I hit 500 bucks I jumped into 3/6 games(2/4 didn't have 6-handed). As soon as I hit 1 grand I jumped right into the 5/10 and w/o a single deposit to Party Poker in almost a year I've turned that 50 bucks into about 10 grand.

The point of the story is not bragging.

[/ QUOTE ]

It obviously is, because its obviously fake. I find it funny that people seem to get off on posting fake stories of how great they are. Hope you enjoyed it.

[/ QUOTE ]

I turned $100 into $20,000 in a year, having never played Texas Holdem before that. It's not unreasonable at all.

[cassette]

[ QUOTE ]
I think I posted this some time back, but it is relevant. I hadn't played at party poker for like 6+ months and they sent me an e-mail saying they put 50 bucks in my account, and I could withdraw it after I mad X amount of player points. That 50 bucks started me playing at 1/2 tables. Having been playing 5/10 & 10/20 on other sites, I dominated these games(I'm sure I had a good streak too, I made like 17bb/100 over 500 hands). As soon as I hit 500 bucks I jumped into 3/6 games(2/4 didn't have 6-handed). As soon as I hit 1 grand I jumped right into the 5/10 and w/o a single deposit to Party Poker in almost a year I've turned that 50 bucks into about 10 grand.

The point of the story is not bragging. 300 bucks, if you are a competent & skilled player, is plenty to play 1/2. 500-1000 is a good BR for 2/4 & 3/6. At the 2500+ level I am quite comfortable playing 5/10. How long would it take to make 300 bucks into 2500? If you are on a streak.. maybe a week? If you have to work a bit at it.. maybe 3 or 4 weeks. Point is.. playing 5/10 you can make 500/week with ease if you are a solid player. To hell with a worthless part-time job that pays 8/hr or whatever.

[/ QUOTE ]

I wouldn't say that playing severley under bankrolled and expecting to be a luckbox is a good plan for your summer.

Playing poker is good advice. But the above certainly is not the way to go about it.

[Klepton]

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I showed your post to two other posters and within 30 seconds they both gave me the same reason as to why your post was obviously fake. Next time be more careful that you fact check your stories.

[/ QUOTE ]

it might be fake, but it's certainly not unreasonable. try playing with HUDs.

[Nigel]

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Playing poker is good advice. But the above certainly is not the way to go about it.

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Sure it is. If you have experience, not taking risks when dealing with bankroll levels so small you could pawn a few CD's to replenish it, is just silly. Hell, as we've seen from his post. Even Party Poker will get you started again if you bust out.

His story, fake or not (who cares?), is good advice.

Nigel

[ClaytonN]

Am I underestimating the amount of free time I'm gonna have in college?

[fnord_too]

Just some noodling...

$300 is enough to pay .10/.25 NL, or 10+1 SNG's.

At the $25 NL, I am not familiar with PP NL at that level, but played some at UB a year or two ago there. I would say 4 tabling you could pull in $10-15/hour pretty easily, which would build your roll up pretty quick.

At the S&G's, you could make the same 4 tabling (maybe a bit more).

You can build up pretty quick from $300, though playing limit is probably the slowest and most variance ridden way to go.

Having said all that, there is nothing wrong with getting a job, either.

[MEbenhoe]

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Am I underestimating the amount of free time I'm gonna have in college?

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Depends on whether or not you're going to be an uptight nerd or the fun type like me who goes to 50% of his classes tops /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[MEbenhoe]

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Clayton,

I'm too lazy to look though your posts to confirm, and I'm too inconsiderate to devote your level of talent to the forefront property area of my memory, but the backyard area of my memory is telling me that I've read enough to know you don't suck at poker. If this is true, there should be plenty of money out there for you for staking purposes.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is true, my offer is still there for that .02/.04 stake if you ever want it Clayton.

[RunDownHouse]

I'd say its partially dependent on your major and partially on your personality. At UGA it probably won't matter much, though. You'll have tons of time.

[USGrant]

Best avatar.

I cashed out $2K to pay off a lingering credit card bill. That move fire bombed my poker roll to $140, but to me it was worth getting rid of the debt. I'm up to $650, and now moving into 1/2 territory after a month of .5/1 purgatory. Just grind it out.

[Laomedon]

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Am I underestimating the amount of free time I'm gonna have in college?

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I don't know where you're going or what you're majoring in, but I go to a liberal arts college and have a MAXIMUM of 3.5-4 hours of class time per day. Usually I have two classes per day, one class on friday.

Yes you will have a [censored] ton of time to mess around, drink, slay women and generally enjoy yourself. Whatever you do, do not spend a majority of this time in front of a computer. You will be able to devote a couple hours a day to gambling without any detriment to your classwork or your drinking.

That is all.

[ClaytonN]

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You will be able to devote a couple hours a day to gambling without any detriment to your classwork or your drinking.

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This is good.

[girgy44]

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Clayton,

I'm too lazy to look though your posts to confirm, and I'm too inconsiderate to devote your level of talent to the forefront property area of my memory, but the backyard area of my memory is telling me that I've read enough to know you don't suck at poker. If this is true, there should be plenty of money out there for you for staking purposes.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is true, my offer is still there for that .02/.04 stake if you ever want it Clayton.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is this gonna be your own money or is Schneids gonna stake him through you?

[Quercus]

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Am I underestimating the amount of free time I'm gonna have in college?

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Probably.

A sizable percentage of college students get part-time jobs and still find time for classes, homework and a decent social life. If you are going to Cal-tech and majoring in Warp Drive Physics, you might not have time, but otherwise you be fine.

Don't over analyze what you will or won't be able to do without any information. In a few weeks, you'll know for sure how much time you do or don't have.

[NLSoldier]

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Clayton,

I'm too lazy to look though your posts to confirm, and I'm too inconsiderate to devote your level of talent to the forefront property area of my memory, but the backyard area of my memory is telling me that I've read enough to know you don't suck at poker. If this is true, there should be plenty of money out there for you for staking purposes.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is true, my offer is still there for that .02/.04 stake if you ever want it Clayton.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is this gonna be your own money or is Schneids gonna stake him through you?

[/ QUOTE ]

ZING!

[Shilly]

Clayton,

Assuming you're taking the typical introductory level classes, you should have plently of free time. People like to make college seem so difficult and time-consuming, but it's not (at least the first year--this can drastically change). In big lectures you're not likely to have lots of actual "homework" to do, just lots of studying. If you're attending class, studying shouldn't take up a whole lot of your time, either.

[MEbenhoe]

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This is true, my offer is still there for that .02/.04 stake if you ever want it Clayton.

[/ QUOTE ]

Is this gonna be your own money or is Schneids gonna stake him through you?

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ZING!

[/ QUOTE ]
Hardly ZING!worthy. Plus I've already paid back schneids his entire original stake, OMG I PLAY g00t.

P.S. where's the $10 you've owed me for like 4 months? /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Girchuck]

You will spend no more than 40 hrs a week going to classes and studying and doing homework (except maybe the exam week)
The rest of the time is yours to do as you please

[meow_meow]

Don't take this the wrong way, but if you took half the time you spend browsing/posting here and played poker instead, you would have a much healthier bankroll.

[freekobe]

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Don't take this the wrong way, but if you took half the time you spend browsing/posting here and played poker instead, you would have a much healthier bankroll.

[/ QUOTE ]

Trmemendous post, though hard to imagine it won't be taken "the wrong way."

[meow_meow]

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Don't take this the wrong way, but if you took half the time you spend browsing/posting here and played poker instead, you would have a much healthier bankroll.

[/ QUOTE ]

Trmemendous post, though hard to imagine it won't be taken "the wrong way."

[/ QUOTE ]

Tremendous response.
I guess I assumed that suggesting to a poker forum poster that they play more poker might be taken as semi-reasonable.

[MEbenhoe]

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You will spend no more than 40 hrs a week going to classes and studying and doing homework (except maybe the exam week)


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40 hrs?!?!?!?!!?! HOLY SHIITE, if I ever spent 40 hrs in a single week going to class and studying I'd wanna cry. Its all about working the system, 20 hrs or less, usually around 10 is clearly the way to go.

[marsvolta619]

If you do get a job, get a construction job. 5:30 - 2 every day, then go to classes after that. Most construction jobs pay ~ 15/hr, just grind that out for a few months and use it as your bankroll. I got lucky and the job I was working at got sub-contracted out by SD school district and bumped pay up to $30/hr, $45/hr on Saturdays, $60/hr on Sundays.

[ClaytonN]

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Don't take this the wrong way, but if you took half the time you spend browsing/posting here and played poker instead, you would have a much healthier bankroll.

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Good point, and point taken

[CallMeIshmael]

Clayton, you will have enough time to gamble. Trust me. College isnt that hard.


Just bonus whore up to like 1k, and go from there.

[TStoneMBD]

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Don't take this the wrong way, but if you took half the time you spend browsing/posting here and played poker instead, you would have a much healthier bankroll.

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if clayton is averaging like $20/hr playing internet poker then she should be spending more time on twoplustwo and less time in his poker client. do things the right way. think about long term. if you stop posting here and keep playing youll be a $20/hr player forever. if you stop playing as much and start reading more youll soon be making much more than that.

stop worrying so much about building a bankroll. of course you need money to pay your bills, but worry about becoming a good player. once you become good enough you can take a 1200 bankroll, 8 table 2/4 and start making 10k a month if you put in full time hours.

bankroll is not as important as talent is.

[jph0424]

At UGA you will probably only have to spend 15-20 hours a week on your school work. This leaves you plenty of time to play poker, work out, party. You don't have to cut anything out of your life. You are definitely overestimating how much time you will spend on school. I go to Georgia Tech and have a girlfriend of almost 2 years, workout almost every day, am in a fraternity, maintain a 3.2 GPA, and still manage to play poker about 15-20 hours per week. Don't write poker off if you are a winning player, the experience you get now will pay huge dividends over the next 4-5 years while you are in school.