He loves the Ace

[pufferfish]

LL, 10 handed, loose, relatively passive.

I'm in LMP with red 8's.

MP and I limp, CO raises. Blinds calls, as do MP and I. Five see the flop.

Flop: Jh Ah 8c

Checked to MP who bets, I call knowing the PFR will raise.
CO (PFR) raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP calls, I re-raise.
CO, BB and MP call.

Turn: Jh Ah 8c - 3d

Checked to me, I bet. CO calls, BB folds, MP calls.

River: Jh Ah 8c 3d - 2d

MP checks, I bet, CO and MP call.

Results to follow. Any comments would be appreciated.

[JTG51]

Looks just fine to me.

If CO is giving off that "I've got AK" vibe and you are sure he'll bet the turn, I might just call his flop raise and check raise the turn sometimes. I like the way you chose to play it though.

[travisand]

Now this hand poses some interesting problems.......wait, not it doesn't, you played it just fine. Aren't there some other hands from your session that you had a bigger problem with?

[RockLobster]

Played beautifully. I know, I've been the victim of that play from people like you. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Seriously, looks great. What's the term for raising after a call? This does not exist in my arsenal. I'd like to add it, so I should know what it's called.

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[CrackerZack]

well played.

his flop play was the limp-reraise (or is that only pre-flop? I call this limp-reraising also personally). Actually your position bemoans it a bit but this is seen often from an EP limper with a big flush draw. If you're opponents are aware of this, it probably got you the extra calls. Anyway, well played.

[RockLobster]

I think there's a term for calling & reraising (besides ballsy). Anyone?

[ZManODS]

"If CO is giving off that "I've got AK" vibe and you are sure he'll bet the turn, I might just call his flop raise and check raise the turn sometimes. I like the way you chose to play it though."

The problem with that is if CO was on a flush draw he might have been buying himself a free card. I think he played it fine. Plus if he waiting to the turn to raise and the 3rd flush card hits, he would have to think twice before raising.

Nicely played

[Barry]

Well played.

I used that play for the first time "by accident". I had flopped a set, and had intended to wait until the turn to raise. When it was raised right behind me, with a few calls in between, what the heck, no need to slowplay anymore, so I reraised. Now I do look for occasions where it would be appropriate. This was a perfect spot.

I don't know if it has a name either, so I just call it "call/reraise"

[RockLobster]

I don't know if it has a name either, so I just call it "call/reraise"

I think you guys are right, there isn't a name for it. I found the post that I was looking for, the one that I thought had a name for this, but it doesn't.

Let me suggest a name for call-reraising:
sack-raising

2 reasons:
- sack reminds me of sandbagging.
- it takes sack to pull it off.

Anyone?

Unrelated post (http://www.twoplustwo.com/forums/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=genpok&Number=218910&F orum=CatSearch-1&Words=call%20raise%20rare&Match=And&Searchpage=0 &Limit=25&Old=3months&Main=218892&Search=true#Post 218910)

[RockLobster]

Let me suggest a name for call-reraising:
sack-raising

2 reasons:
- sack reminds me of sandbagging.
- it takes sack to pull it off.

- you'll need a sack to carry your money home.

[pufferfish]

Thank you all for the comments, I appreciate it.

Final board: Jh Ah 8c 3d 2d

I showed red 8's for the set.
CO showed red K's.
MP showed A2 for two pair.

I had CO down as any Ace-any type, so I thought he had Ace-big.

MP was a little new to the table, but I'd seen him suck-out on one or two hands.

So I had it wrong, CO did not have one of his beloved Aces. Not sure why he stayed in the hand, guess he got a little potstuck.

[pufferfish]

"sack-raising" sounds pretty good to me. .:-).

[cero_z]

[RockLobster]

Smooth calling (as I understand it) is calling with enough strength to raise, but never actually raising...

[Allan]

Whelp, When you check and then raise it's called a check-raise. When you limp preflop then reraise a raise its called a limp-reraise. So why shouldn't it simply be called a call-reraise for a post flop situation that involves calling a bet then reraising a raisor?


Allan

[RockLobster]

So why shouldn't it simply be called a call-reraise for a post flop situation?

Because it's such a cool play, it needs a better name /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

[Allan]

OK then how bout the RockLobster /forums/images/icons/wink.gif Imagine the posts........ I bet the turn and RockLobstered 6 loose players still in the pot who all called..........Should I CR here or try for a RL? /forums/images/icons/grin.gif

Allan

[RockLobster]