Do you gamble here?

[ChoicestHops]

Instead of using the hand history I will keep it simple.

Blinds are 25/50 at a table of 10, my stack is 600 and I raise QQ to 200 in MP. I get 2 callers.

Flop is AJJ rainbow and the pot is 600. My stack is 300 here. Do I all-in or play it weak tight because of the ace. I chose to push because if I check here and someone bets into me whether they have the ace or not and I fold my stack is at 300 and Im effectively cripped.

No reads.

[Maulik]

Given your reasoning, shouldn't you simply have open pushed? It makes all your decisions easier and doesn't leave you concerned about being cripped.

Also, if you are going all-in why not check and let them put some of their chips in. That way if they had a lower pair, you've got their chips and if you're beat, well... you're still toast.

[ChoicestHops]

You are most likely right. I wanted some action with my ladies here however and wanted to see if any sub-par hands wanted to play but certainly an AK would have called an open push at level 3 here.

[45suited]

How did your stack go from 600 to 300 after a raise to 200?

I'd raise to 150 pre-flop. With two callers and that flop, I'm check folding to significant action. Too likely with multiple opponents that one of them has an ace. Save your 400, you can still come back.

BTW, against one opponent, I might check / call an all-in. Pushing accomplishes nothing (other than keep a K from coming on the turn). Any ace would call. Against an aggressive opponent (if the pot was heads up), I'd decide whether I want to commit more chips to the pot. If so, check - call a push. The times that you have the best hand, you will have induced a bluff. Open pushing is the classic example of only getting called by hands that beat you.

[Maulik]

You are most likely right. I wanted some action with my ladies here however and wanted to see if any sub-par hands wanted to play but certainly an AK would have called an open push at level 3 here.

Having gone all-in is better than betting 1/3 of your stack then check/mucking if an Ace flops.

[freemoney]

i cant believe how bad of an understanding you have of the game, ill leave it at that.

[Maulik]

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i cant believe how bad of an understanding you have of the game, ill leave it at that.

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did you disagree with something I said?

[UMTerp]

Check-calling an all-in is better than pushing on that flop.

[durron597]

With 12xBB and QQ in EP I just openpush.

[freemoney]

no it was in reference to OP, although openpushing is not nearly the best line here.

[Maulik]

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no it was in reference to OP, although openpushing is not nearly the best line here.

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What is the Hero going to do when someone goes all-in over the top of him?

[freemoney]

when?

[UMTerp]

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What is the Hero going to do when someone goes all-in over the top of him?

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Do you open-push every time you get AA dealt to you?

[bluefeet]

the 'gamble' you took was PF

you didn't open-push because you wanted action.
you raised 1/3 your stack (4x) to get said 'action'.
you correctly reasoned, that with 2 callers behind you, this flop may not be favorable.

you need to be cognisant of you FULL intentions post flop, when making your PF move (in regards to your raise):

a) "all my chips are going in - period. i just want more chips in the pot first"
b) "i'm going to raise here, hopefully taking down a nice pot on the flop"

[side note: i'm not advocating [A] at all]

comparing A & B to your PF raise size, you can see how niether really fits. regardless if it's your intent to "go broke or double/triple up" or "see a flop...get out alive if it doesn't work out", the 1/3-your-stack-4x isn't accomplishing either for you.

if you're not going to open-push, a raise of t125-150 fits both of your post flop options. you'll get some 'action', and it leaves you an exit with some chips intact.

for the record, i'd just open-push. a standard raise + an increase in blinds, leaves you only 5BB. furthermore, with the likelyhood of being out of position against one or more of your callers, your post-flop options are slim to none (check/fold....push) on an unfavorable flop like this.

[freemoney]

well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

[ChoicestHops]

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well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

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What the hell are you talking about?

[Maulik]

disregard my response above, I confused threads.

[junkmail3]

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well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

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What the hell are you talking about?

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Can you flop an A holding AA and be in trouble?
Can you flop an A holding QQ and be in trouble?

I'm pretty sure that is the difference he is talking about.

[ChoicestHops]

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well theres a huge difference between AA and QQ and this flop illustrates it...

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What's he trying to get at, don't open push QQ because of possible risks?

[Maulik]

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What's he trying to get at, don't open push QQ because of possible risks?

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I hope not!

[KingDan]

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no it was in reference to OP, although openpushing is not nearly the best line here.

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What is the Hero going to do when someone goes all-in over the top of him?

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You call.