Guess The Hands

[sekrah]

Live 1/2 NL game, Seneca Allegany Casino.. No spoiling for those who already know the results. Just a simple hand reading exercise for beginners.

Hero limps in UTG, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls. $12 pot.

Flop Q /images/graemlins/club.gif, 9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $10, folded around to CO. CO raises to $25. Fold, Fold, Hero calls $15.

Turn, K /images/graemlins/club.gif,

Hero checks. CO bets $20. Hero pushes all-in. CO instantly calls his approximately $120 he has left.


What do both players have?

Hero is fairly tight, as is our Cutoff.. Neither has played a whole lot of pots.

[xorbie]

If they don't both suck, CO has a set (99 or 33 or possibly QK). Hero has TJ.

[AllIn3High]

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Live 1/2 NL game, Seneca Allegany Casino.. No spoiling for those who already know the results. Just a simple hand reading exercise for beginners.

Hero limps in UTG, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls. $12 pot.

Flop Q /images/graemlins/club.gif, 9 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $10, folded around to CO. CO raises to $25. Fold, Fold, Hero calls $15.

Turn, K /images/graemlins/club.gif,

Hero checks. CO bets $20. Hero pushes all-in. CO instantly calls his approximately $120 he has left.


What do both players have?

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What type of player is CO? Off the top of my head I'd say hero has 33 for bottom set and CO has Q9 for top 2 on the flop.

[gulebjorn]

This is not a hand reading exercise, it's just wild guessing. No info on either player, no table image, no read, no preflop betting, they could have anything.

[sekrah]

Images added..

CO probably has 33 and hero probably has JT

edit - after looking at the reads I think there is a decent chance hero has KK here

[BirdieLongSocks]

Villian has 10J and you got KQ?

[gulebjorn]

I'd say you have KQs, CO has 33.

[Tuben]

I stupied.

Have no ide can have anything. Top pair.??
And maybe bluff?

if hero has j-10 then he is calling without odds. I do think that is what he has. I think he would re raise the 25 dollar bet if he had k-k and I think the villian has a set

[Ghazban]

Hero: 99
CO: KQ if he sucks or JT if he's decent.

[sekrah]

<font color="white"> Hero has 10-J.. CO has K-Q.

No odds to call?? Getting 3:1 to make that call, and with money looking to come into the hand from CO, there's plenty of implied odds to make the easy call. </font>

[Ghazban]

Tight players don't openlimp JT UTG.

[sekrah]

At this table you do.

I didn't say Hero was a rock

[djoyce003]

Hero has a set and villain has J10. If hero who is allegedly tight open limped j10 utg he needs to change his desc. It wouldn't surprise me if they both had J 10, but someone was freerolling with the j 10 of clubs.

If hero in fact does make a set, he should have reraised on the flop, and if he has AQ or KQ he should have open raised, not openlimped.

[Ghazban]

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If hero in fact does make a set, he should have reraised on the flop...

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This I don't really agree with based on most live 1/2 games I've played. The vast majority of live players (and I mean about 99.9% of them) at these stakes will not raise the flop on a draw. If I told you the flop raise was definitely a made hand, would you still think 3-betting the flop is mandatory?

[sekrah]

I should have posted a better description of the table.. There was lots of open limping.. I'd say over 60% of the pots went to the flop without a raise, and Hero's image wasn't super, rock-tight, but far tighter than most of the table who would play almost anything.

[djoyce003]

If his raise meant a made hand I was sitting on a set of 9's i'd say yes, he should raise....if our hero has bottom set, maybe not. Really depends on what our hero has.