Heads up HH evaluation

[orenthal]

not been fairing very well heads up lately so i thought i might post my most recent heads up history and get a few thoughts.

***** Hand History for Game 2469063219 *****
bambellm finished in third place and won $20.
bambellm: H
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:14:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (3440)
Seat 8: jgarr (4560)
jgarr posts small blind (100)
hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ As, 7d ]
hero: gg
jgarr raises (500) to 600
bambellm: NH GG
hero raises (1100) to 1300
jgarr calls (700)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 6h, 4d ]
hero bets (600)
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3200
Board: [ Jd 6h 4d ]
hero balance 4740, bet 1900, collected 3200, net +1300
jgarr balance 3260, lost 1300 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469065802 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:14:26 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4740)
Seat 8: jgarr (3260)
hero posts small blind (100)
jgarr posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 4c, Th ]
hero calls (100)
jgarr checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5c, Kc, 2c ]
jgarr bets (3060)
jgarr is all-In.
hero folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3460 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3460
Board: [ 5c Kc 2c ]
hero balance 4540, lost 200 (folded)
jgarr balance 3460, bet 3260, collected 3460, net +200

***** Hand History for Game 2469068388 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:14:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4540)
Seat 8: jgarr (3460)
jgarr posts small blind (100)
hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Kd, 7h ]
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
hero balance 4640, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
jgarr balance 3360, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469069298 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:15:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4640)
Seat 8: jgarr (3360)
hero posts small blind (100)
jgarr posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 5d, 9d ]
hero raises (300) to 400
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 600
hero balance 4840, bet 400, collected 600, net +200
jgarr balance 3160, lost 200 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469070493 *****
LaBill222: doooo doooo
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:15:12 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4840)
Seat 8: jgarr (3160)
jgarr posts small blind (100)
hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Jc, 4c ]
jgarr raises (3060) to 3160
jgarr is all-In.
hero folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3360 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3360
hero balance 4640, lost 200 (folded)
jgarr balance 3360, bet 3160, collected 3360, net +200

***** Hand History for Game 2469072152 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:15:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4640)
Seat 8: jgarr (3360)
hero posts small blind (100)
jgarr posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 2s, 6h ]
hero folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
hero balance 4540, lost 100 (folded)
jgarr balance 3460, bet 200, collected 300, net +100 [ Ah 9d ] [ high card ace -- Ah,9d ]

***** Hand History for Game 2469073086 *****
hero: you up tonight bill?
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:15:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4540)
Seat 8: jgarr (3460)
jgarr posts small blind (100)
hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 3d, 9h ]
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 300
hero balance 4640, bet 200, collected 300, net +100
jgarr balance 3360, lost 100 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469074048 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:15:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4640)
Seat 8: jgarr (3360)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 3h, 8h ]
hero calls (150)
jgarr checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, 3c, 2h ]
jgarr checks.
hero bets (500)
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1100
Board: [ Jc 3c 2h ]
hero balance 4940, bet 800, collected 1100, net +300
jgarr balance 3060, lost 300 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469076170 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:16:08 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4940)
Seat 8: jgarr (3060)
jgarr posts small blind (150)
hero posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 9c, Jd ]
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
hero balance 5090, bet 300, collected 450, net +150
jgarr balance 2910, lost 150 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469077102 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:16:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (5090)
Seat 8: jgarr (2910)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 7s, Js ]
hero raises (850) to 1000
jgarr raises (2610) to 2910
jgarr is all-In.
hero folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3910 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3910
hero balance 4090, lost 1000 (folded)
jgarr balance 3910, bet 2910, collected 3910, net +1000 [ 8c Ac ] [ high card ace -- Ac,8c ]

***** Hand History for Game 2469079661 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:16:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4090)
Seat 8: jgarr (3910)
jgarr posts small blind (150)
hero posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Tc, 2h ]
jgarr raises (650) to 800
hero folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1100
hero balance 3790, lost 300 (folded)
jgarr balance 4210, bet 800, collected 1100, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 2469081289 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:16:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (3790)
Seat 8: jgarr (4210)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Jc, Js ]
hero raises (1050) to 1200
jgarr calls (900)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, Ah, 3s ]
jgarr bets (3010)
jgarr is all-In.
hero folds.
Creating Main Pot with $5410 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5410
Board: [ 9c Ah 3s ]
hero balance 2590, lost 1200 (folded)
jgarr balance 5410, bet 4210, collected 5410, net +1200 [ 4s 4c ] [ a pair of fours -- Ah,9c,4s,4c,3s ]

***** Hand History for Game 2469084677 *****
hero: good bet
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:17:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (2590)
Seat 8: jgarr (5410)
jgarr posts small blind (150)
hero posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Js, 2h ]
hero: i had you
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 450
hero balance 2740, bet 300, collected 450, net +150
jgarr balance 5260, lost 150 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469085643 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:17:39 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (2740)
Seat 8: jgarr (5260)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qh, 5h ]
hero: very nice bet
hero raises (850) to 1000
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300
hero balance 3040, bet 1000, collected 1300, net +300
jgarr balance 4960, lost 300 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 2469087517 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:17:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (3040)
Seat 8: jgarr (4960)
jgarr posts small blind (150)
hero posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 6s, 8s ]
jgarr calls (150)
hero checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qd, 4c, 9d ]
hero checks.
jgarr bets (600)
hero folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1200
Board: [ Qd 4c 9d ]
hero balance 2740, lost 300 (folded)
jgarr balance 5260, bet 900, collected 1200, net +300

***** Hand History for Game 2469089309 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:18:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (2740)
Seat 8: jgarr (5260)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qd, Qc ]
hero calls (150)
jgarr checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, Kd, 4h ]
jgarr bets (4960)
jgarr is all-In.
hero calls (2440)
hero is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
Creating Main Pot with $5480 with hero
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2520 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5480 | Side Pot 1: 2520
Board: [ Jd Kd 4h 9h 6c ]
hero balance 0, lost 2740 [ Qd Qc ] [ a pair of queens -- Kd,Qd,Qc,Jd,9h ]
jgarr balance 8000, bet 5260, collected 8000, net +2740 [ Ks 2d ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kd,Jd,9h,6c ]

[tigerite]

I would never have folded JJ on an A high flop heads up when he doesn't re-raise you preflop. So, so weak

I'd also not get "pretty" with QQ and just shove. I see this so often. Why do it?

[Isura]

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2469063219 *****
bambellm finished in third place and won $20.
bambellm: H
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:14:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (3440)
Seat 8: jgarr (4560)
jgarr posts small blind (100)
hero posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ As, 7d ]
hero: gg
jgarr raises (500) to 600
bambellm: NH GG
hero raises (1100) to 1300
jgarr calls (700)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, 6h, 4d ]
hero bets (600)
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3200
Board: [ Jd 6h 4d ]
hero balance 4740, bet 1900, collected 3200, net +1300
jgarr balance 3260, lost 1300 (folded)

[/ QUOTE ]

What's the point of the minimum reraise? You're giving villain like 3:1 on a call, he shouldn't fold any 2 HU here. This is a push or fold. I'd probably push. You only have 11bb and there's a lot already in the pot, worth risking your whole stack to take down. push.

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***** Hand History for Game 2469074048 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:15:47 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (4640)
Seat 8: jgarr (3360)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 3h, 8h ]
hero calls (150)
jgarr checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jc, 3c, 2h ]
jgarr checks.
hero bets (500)
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1100
Board: [ Jc 3c 2h ]
hero balance 4940, bet 800, collected 1100, net +300
jgarr balance 3060, lost 300 (folded)

[/ QUOTE ]

I dont' bet so much on the flop. What does he fold for 500 that he doesn't fold for 300-350? A bit this big just invitess a check/raise push from all kinds of hands. You didn't raise preflop, and he's not going to give you credit for a J very easily.

[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2469077102 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:16:17 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (5090)
Seat 8: jgarr (2910)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 7s, Js ]
hero raises (850) to 1000
jgarr raises (2610) to 2910
jgarr is all-In.
hero folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3910 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 3910
hero balance 4090, lost 1000 (folded)
jgarr balance 3910, bet 2910, collected 3910, net +1000 [ 8c Ac ] [ high card ace -- Ac,8c ]

[/ QUOTE ]

This is why I don't like raising so much HU. I raise of 750 will still fold his bad hands, and it's easier to get away from if he pushes. It's not good to raise for so much of your stack with the intention of folding. You're getting 2:1 here to call so I think you should have called after creating such a big pot (you're hardly ever way behind in this HU situations anyways).


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***** Hand History for Game 2469081289 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:16:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (3790)
Seat 8: jgarr (4210)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Jc, Js ]
hero raises (1050) to 1200
jgarr calls (900)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c, Ah, 3s ]
jgarr bets (3010)
jgarr is all-In.
hero folds.
Creating Main Pot with $5410 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5410
Board: [ 9c Ah 3s ]
hero balance 2590, lost 1200 (folded)
jgarr balance 5410, bet 4210, collected 5410, net +1200 [ 4s 4c ] [ a pair of fours -- Ah,9c,4s,4c,3s ]

[/ QUOTE ]

If you want to play a flop here, raise less preflop. I also wouldn't fold on the flop.


[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2469085643 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:17:39 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (2740)
Seat 8: jgarr (5260)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qh, 5h ]
hero: very nice bet
hero raises (850) to 1000
jgarr folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1300
hero balance 3040, bet 1000, collected 1300, net +300
jgarr balance 4960, lost 300 (folded)


[/ QUOTE ]

You have 9bb and you are outchipped almost 2:1. I hope you weren't raising with the intention of folding to a push. Just push preflop for heaven's sake.

[ QUOTE ]

***** Hand History for Game 2469089309 *****
300/600 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14497980) - Wed Aug 03 00:18:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 39805 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 1: hero (2740)
Seat 8: jgarr (5260)
hero posts small blind (150)
jgarr posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ Qd, Qc ]
hero calls (150)
jgarr checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Jd, Kd, 4h ]
jgarr bets (4960)
jgarr is all-In.
hero calls (2440)
hero is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 6c ]
Creating Main Pot with $5480 with hero
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2520 with jgarr
** Summary **
Main Pot: 5480 | Side Pot 1: 2520
Board: [ Jd Kd 4h 9h 6c ]
hero balance 0, lost 2740 [ Qd Qc ] [ a pair of queens -- Kd,Qd,Qc,Jd,9h ]
jgarr balance 8000, bet 5260, collected 8000, net +2740 [ Ks 2d ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kd,Jd,9h,6c ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Why not make your standard raise here? Villain has seen you raise this much and fold, so hope he calls or comes over the top. Raise atleast 700 here, and I push might induce a bad call since you haven't been pushing and he might see that as weakness. I like pushing here considering the previous action.

[schwza]

a7: pooosh.
J7s: i'd either open-push or raise to 800.
JJ: his weird post-flop pushes make me a little less inclined to call this than i said in the seperate post devoted to this hand. it's a close decision.
QQ: gotta raise. he has been very passive, so you should not expect him to raise with junk there. i like the call post-flop.

[orenthal]

thanks to all of you guys. i appreciate all the good advice.

[Isura]

I'm glad you posted this. We need more HU posts in this forum. I say this with for the selfish reason that I still have no idea what to do 50% of the time. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[orenthal]

apparently i have no idea what to do 98% of the time. it is funny how i turn into a little old lady once we get HU.