AQs in a multi-way pot 15/30 blinds 5 way in BB

[Maulik]

30/60 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL)
Table Table 39804 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: nibandit (605)
Seat 2: BOSOX311 (945)
Seat 3: bayhacker (865)
Seat 4: Chefspot59 (545)
Seat 5: Hero (725)
Seat 7: cecehu (2880)
Seat 9: dknight333 (655)
Seat 10: supercoog98 (780)
Chefspot59 posts small blind (15)
Hero posts big blind (30)
** Dealing down cards **
<font color="red"> Dealt to Hero [ As, Qs ] </font>
cecehu calls (30)
dknight333 folds.
supercoog98 calls (30)
nibandit calls (30)
BOSOX311 calls (30)
bayhacker folds.
Chefspot59 calls (15)
Hero raises (695) to 725
Hero is all-In.
cecehu calls (695)
supercoog98 folds.
nibandit folds.
BOSOX311 folds.
Chefspot59 folds.

My line is I don't want to play AQs out of position against a huge field. Ideally, I can just scoop t150 by pushing, or get called by a lower ace. The worst case scenario is a race w/ t150 of dead chips

No clue. I'd imagine you would have to have a much different strategy with this type of structure (start with $800??), compared to say, Pokerstars where you start with $1500.

But lets say I was down to 725 during Level 2, I'd probably do the same, and get busted by the UTG limper who has AA.

[Maulik]

NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14491978 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Tuesday, August 02, 21:04:50 EDT 2005
Table Table 11883 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 10: MTUslyguy ( $800 )
Seat 7: PHILTHY1 ( $800 )
Seat 6: Hero ( $800 )
Seat 2: nickpaq ( $800 )
Seat 5: theDA ( $800 )
Seat 4: KILLERCALLER ( $800 )
Seat 8: SINATRALIVES ( $800 )
Seat 3: comacho216 ( $800 )
Seat 9: grizzlo ( $800 )
Seat 1: whodey033 ( $800 )
Trny:14491978 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
<font color="red"> Dealt to Hero [ Kh As ]
</font>
&gt;You have options at Table 11149 Table!.
PHILTHY1 raises [45].
SINATRALIVES folds.
grizzlo folds.
MTUslyguy folds.
whodey033 folds.
nickpaq folds.
comacho216 folds.
KILLERCALLER calls [45].
theDA calls [35].
Hero is all-In [785]

same idea here, don't want to play AKo out of position + dead chips.

[skierdude1000]

Don't be scared to play a flop... just raise it up, but not allin... no point

[curtains]

This is perfectly fine. There are a lot of chips out there, and they represent about 25% of your stack. Meanwhile you have a very strong hand. I don't think it's mandatory to do what you did, but it's my preferred play. If I had like 900 chips I'd lean towards checking.

[ChuckNorris]

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The worst case scenario is a race w/ t150 of dead chips

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Say what? Last time I checked getting called by AA is worse than a race.

I dunno. What's wrong with checking first hand and calling with AK? I do like the AK hand better than AQ though.

[curtains]

They rarely have AA-KK when they limp early on at the lower limits.

[diconoclastx]

I would personally check this one. But it looks OK to me. All-in with AK is the optimal play I think.

[ChuckNorris]

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They rarely have AA-KK when they limp early on at the lower limits.


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Depends on your definition of "rarely". I've seen this happen many, many times. Even limping and calling raises insted of reraising. Of course people usually raise 'em, but that doesn't mean they always do.

[Maulik]

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They rarely have AA-KK when they limp early on at the lower limits.


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Depends on your definition of "rarely". I've seen this happen many, many times. Even limping and calling raises insted of reraising. Of course people usually raise 'em, but that doesn't mean they always do.

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Its likely I'll lose a big portion of my stack trying to discern what they have if they hapene to have AA or QQ &amp; the flop is A or Q high.

[citanul]

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This is perfectly fine. There are a lot of chips out there, and they represent about 25% of your stack. Meanwhile you have a very strong hand. I don't think it's mandatory to do what you did, but it's my preferred play. If I had like 900 chips I'd lean towards checking.

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this is basically exactly my thinking. in fact it may be exactly my thinking, but i didn't look closely enough to figure out the cutoff where i'd check instead. it's probably almost exactly where curtains puts his.

citanul

[ChuckNorris]

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Its likely I'll lose a big portion of my stack trying to discern what they have if they hapene to have AA or QQ &amp; the flop is A or Q high.

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Certainly. But with an A-high flop there's a chance you can get away without busting out, unlike when you go all-in against AA preflop. Also, on a A or Q high flop the AT's and KQ's are willing to donate their chips to you, which might not be the case preflop.

[tigerite]

Actually nobody limped, it was raised UTG and then button and SB called it. Not sure where this limping malarkey is coming from. 45 + 45 + 35 + 15 = 145 chips? That's not 25% of his stack either. I think this is a close one. I lean towards just calling actually

[Maulik]

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Actually nobody limped, it was raised UTG and then button and SB called it. Not sure where this limping malarkey is coming from. 45 + 45 + 35 + 15 = 145 chips? That's not 25% of his stack either. I think this is a close one. I lean towards just calling actually

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In the AQs example there were 4 or 5 limpers 130/725 ~ 20% of my stack.

AKo example is what you're referring to.

[tigerite]

Yeah, sorry. I thought people were discussing the AKo hand rather than the AQ one. In that one it's 180 pot to 695 in stack which is obviously much more of a push.