a hemp to talk about

skp said i didnt put out something to talk about like mason does so here it is. i always get my headings worded wrong


here in montana there is a growing trend to try and get hemp made legal again. for those not familiar hemp is a product that is like cotton in its uses. thats simplified. its not legal to grow as the authorities cant tell from the air whats a hemp crop and whats really mary jane. hemp and pot plants are close to the same thing. hwmp was used to make clothes , rope, etc i years ago and would be a large cash crop for the u. s. but it also seems the cotton industry which has a big lobby is set against legalizing it. i wonder why. do you think things should be illegal so another industry can make more money or what.

the u.s. is having some problems with canada as they have let hemp become a legal. crop

I'm all for growing hemp. Not only can it be used for rope and clothing, its leaves can be put in plastic baggies and sold to New Yorkers for exorbitant prices.


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The Canadians must have found out about the baggies. I call for immediate war upon Canada!

I saw a documentary some time ago, I can't remember what it was called, that showed how the FBI had used the criminilisation of marijuana use as a tool to get more resources and power for themselves, at a time when they were nearly going to be dismantled. This was really the beginning of the US's "War on drugs".


Hemp is a useful crop, although it's not the panacea some make out. It's greatest use would probably be in paper manufacturing, cutting down on the need for timber use. I don't know anything about the cotton industry lobbying against hemp but I imagine they wouldn't be in favour. I doubt their opposition is a deciding factor. The US just doesn't want it to become so easy to conceal marijuana crops. Hemp is pretty much just the name for marijuana cultivated for its fibre, the only difference being that these crops are of a variety that produce far less THC, the active substance in pot.


And what's the answer? Well, legalise both hemp growing and marijuana smoking and stop being so uptight about a drug that is far less damaging in every way than alcohol or tobacco.


Chris

I think growing hemp should be legal and that mary jane should at least be decriminalized. I don't smoke it but it is clearly less dangerous than alcohol. Decriminalizing other drugs would be another debate, but I think it is mistaken to lump mary jane in with other drugs for this purpose. Of course it is somewhat harmful but alcohol is not only somewhat harmful but deadly as well. Prohibition didn't work and the war on drugs isn't working, and thinking that the war on drugs should be continued against mary jane is IMO just plain silly. I'm also getting the overall impression that Canadians are more sensible than Americans on average;-) Besides, "eh?" sounds cooler than "yo!" so I guess I'll have to go visit the Great North for a while one of these years.

Hemp is a very useful crop. The war on drugs has in part degenerated into a money and power war not only on the part of the drug lords but on the part of the enforcement authorities as well.


I do recall reading that smoking a joint does about ten times the lung damage that smoking a cigarette does. People just don't smoke 40 joints a day, though.

For those of you who don't read RGP this is a strong statement. "M" is a regular poster who is vehement AGAINST smoking. debbie

Hemp? Wasn't he one of the original three stooges? Let's see there was David, Ray and Hemp? No, no, it was Larry, Mason and Hemp or maybe it was Moe, Ray and Hemp. Oh, sorry it was Shemp. Some(ah)time(ah) I getah confuseded. Hemp? Hmmm so you wan't to grow Camels and cut off there hemps. That's kind of cruel isn't it? No wonder it's against the law. Besides if you think Osama Bin Laden hates us now just wait until after you kill that Camel jockeys sex pet for it's hemp. Or are those things humps? No that can't be right. A hump is something personal between Ray and his ewe. Ewe devil ewe. Well it's been so long that I smoked a good hemp or hanged a neighbor with six feet of it I'm not sure that I even could recognize hemp if I see it. I'm sure it's the same for the govenment hemp detecives. By the way is there a special hemp division in the CIA? FBI? ABC? CNN? PIG? Well anyway since I'm sure it's such an ancient crop thing that no one would recognize it I think you should grow some and not worry about it. To be extra careful just plant some cannibas near it. When the feds see that they will probably miss the hemp and you will be safe.


Your buddy,


Vince.


P.S. Don't mind skp, he's Canadian.

"but I think it is mistaken to lump mary jane "


That depends on whose Mary Jane you're talking about.


Vince.

Well you might say "vehement," but I just try to look at cigarette smoking, and its effects, logically. I think almost anyone with access to the same information and an open, unbiased, logical mind would come to essentially the same conclusions I have. The one conclusion I have drawn which they might not agree with is that I believe restriction of smoking indoors, in venues frequented by the public or in the workplace, should be mandated by law. It's a very damaging activity which affects other people indoors, and I don't see why that isn't obvious to many, although I can see why some might feel that it should not be a place for the government to assume control.

Of course hemp should be legal. It used to be legal until certain industries such as the lumber industry and the cotton growers lobbied to make it go away.


Not only that, I don't smoke pot but I think marijuana should be legal for medicinal AND recreational use. But that's actually a different issue, even though the plants are basically the same.


natedogg

hemp is for smoking..not roping sheep..gl

brownies ain't too bad...do not have to smoke mowie wowie to get medicinal benefits...gl

If true, I imagine this is because cigarettes are filtered, whereas joints aren't. I seem to recall reading that unfiltered tobacco smoke was worse than unfiltered marijuana smoke, but that's just a vague memory. I know that nicotine does extra damage to the lungs and THC doesnt.


Chris

In Australia it is illegal to smoke in just about any public indoor place you could name, including (generally) restaurants. The exceptions I can think of are hotels and (of course) casinos!


Chris

I believe growing hemp is more environmentally friendly. Its a hardy plant and would not require the same levels of toxic chemicals as say cotton. My understanding is that its not smoking quality so that argument doesn't hold water. I say plant the seeds.

so Ed how was the gobbler?


they have a hemp festival in missoula every year and its quite good and fun. its in the caras park and has good food and music.

Ray, does Mason know that you are into this SYUFF ??

mason knows he'd be wasting his breath trying to tell a montana mountain man what to do...

The turkey tasted different but good. Not as moist as a butterball. The smell while cooking reminded me some of grouse.

forget about smoking it. im for wearing it!!!


and please dont tell mason, as he never reads my posts.