View Full Version : i'm afraid to whore casinos
bosoxfan
08-02-2005, 11:56 AM
From the posts I've read it seems everyone is doing it and making money but I'm nervous about risking my limited bankroll. Is there a whoring 101 for casinos like Bonuswhores has for poker anywhere?
DrunkHamster
08-02-2005, 12:07 PM
www.casinowhoring.com (http://www.casinowhoring.com)
I know how you feel, I felt the same way, until I started last thursday (the 27th, it's now tues the 2nd). I'm up $886 in that time. I've found it to be virtually risk free.
sthief09
08-02-2005, 12:22 PM
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www.casinowhoring.com (http://www.casinowhoring.com)
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that site is great if you like out of date information that leads to you playing 30,000 hands of video poker that don't even count toward the bonus
sthief09
08-02-2005, 12:22 PM
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I know how you feel, I felt the same way, until I started last thursday (the 27th, it's now tues the 2nd). I'm up $886 in that time. I've found it to be virtually risk free.
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you're running good. it's FAR from risk-free
dengar
08-02-2005, 12:45 PM
I was worried at first too. It really is a great way to break up alot of poker playing and make some money while you are at it..
I have made over 1000 bucks and I started whoring casinos last month.
Just be very careful when you read the Terms for each site and get as much info about each casino before playing there.
pecto
08-02-2005, 12:46 PM
What happens when u don't even know the basics of this games?? Is it still EV+?
dengar
08-02-2005, 01:04 PM
Someone will post the link to wizard of odds. You play by the rules they have laid out and it will be +EV.
I am at work and don't have the link handy.
BruinEric
08-02-2005, 01:08 PM
It is NOT risk free. If you have a limited BR, don't do it.
I have done 3 casinos and am positive overall. One of the sites did not allow BJ play. I played a VP game at around .05 house edge and still busted out buyin + bonus there. Variance can be significant in all games, and particularly in non-BJ.
There ARE some table-game strategies to minimize risk better than my approach.
SteveM
08-02-2005, 01:52 PM
Intercasino and I think some of the other cryptos ARE risk-free. Deposit $100 (this month, but usually it is $90), then they credit your acct. 100% bonus. Play blackjack (I just bet $5 for 500 hands) according to the chart they provide until you reach the WR (25X) or lose the bonus. Then quit. Any losses come out of the bonus first, so as long as you stop when your bonus is gone, it is truly risk-free. I've done it the last 2 months (ever since they made the bonus too hard to clear at the micros) and won $200-$300 in about 1.5 hours both times. I don't expect to do that well every time, but since I can't LOSE anything, I'll be back every month.
DrunkHamster
08-02-2005, 01:58 PM
OK, fair enough, I didn't realise. The ones I have done from there have all been OK, but I've only done some of the first page. Any ideas for a better site?
Oh, and nice album BTW, although WYWH is better.
car ramrod
08-02-2005, 04:09 PM
Like most people have said, make sure to read the t&c carefully at all casinos, they change often.
Its not risk free, but with a little luck you can make a nice profit. I suggest only doing the ones with low deposits for 100% or 200% bonuses first. Less risk involved this way. Read the casino forum on bonus whores.
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you're running good. it's FAR from risk-free
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Yes I am running good.
"risk free" may be too strong a term, however, if you play blackjack and pontoon (on sites that allow them) by a reasonable set of standards yout chance of not making a profit is extremely low, and your chance of going bust even smaller.
Homer
08-02-2005, 08:49 PM
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OK, fair enough, I didn't realise. The ones I have done from there have all been OK, but I've only done some of the first page. Any ideas for a better site?
Oh, and nice album BTW, although WYWH is better.
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www.bonuswhores.com (http://www.bonuswhores.com) -> Casino Forum Archives
DrunkHamster
08-03-2005, 05:36 AM
Thanks, those forums are great. I can't find the archives however - is it just me being stupid?
jon_keck
08-03-2005, 06:15 AM
He means the old threads that are a few pages deep (unless I'm really missing something). It's time well spent if you're interested in it. Be sure to double check all info with the sites' T&C's, of course.
MaxPowerPoker
08-03-2005, 01:04 PM
http://www.bonusbug.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=casino;action=display;num=110963212 5
hogua
08-03-2005, 01:15 PM
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It is NOT risk free. If you have a limited BR, don't do it.
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This is very good advice.
Some of the games you'll need to play have a high amount of variance (like video poker).Even though these games have a low house advantage, the high variance can take a huge chunk out of a small roll very quickly.
Also, several casinos are much slower with cashout than poker rooms are. It is very common to get cash back to Neteller from a poker site in 24-48 hours. It is also very come for online casinos to take 7-21 days (or longer) to send your cashout to Neteller. They'll drag out the process by asking for a copy of you ID, utility bills, bank statements, etc.
This kind of delay is horrible for a small roll, because it'll keep a large portion of the roll inactive for a long time. We all know that an inactive roll can't grow.
Serveral months ago, I had a very small bankroll, most of which was tied up waiting for a casino to process my cashout. The process took so long that I missed out on being able to deposit for a a Party reload. This delay cost me a change to help build my roll with an easy Party bonus.
Freakin
08-03-2005, 02:08 PM
I've lost over $2k at a time. I've had a $5k cashout in 'pending' status for 6 weeks. It's far from risk-free, and the bonus you start with (starluck, planetluck, and Casino on Net) are far from representative of the rest of bonus whoring. I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but I am saying you shouldn't get into it with false expectations.
If you can't afford to lose the money, don't do it.
Freakin
Jim Morrison
08-03-2005, 02:38 PM
Wait til variance decides to bitch slap you. Casinos are anything BUT risk free.
dirty moose
08-04-2005, 04:45 AM
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Intercasino and I think some of the other cryptos ARE risk-free. Deposit $100 (this month, but usually it is $90), then they credit your acct. 100% bonus. Play blackjack (I just bet $5 for 500 hands) according to the chart they provide until you reach the WR (25X) or lose the bonus. Then quit. Any losses come out of the bonus first, so as long as you stop when your bonus is gone, it is truly risk-free. I've done it the last 2 months (ever since they made the bonus too hard to clear at the micros) and won $200-$300 in about 1.5 hours both times. I don't expect to do that well every time, but since I can't LOSE anything, I'll be back every month.
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let me get this str8, say i lose the $100, did i only lost the bonus cash? or did i lose my actuall 100 bucks i put on.
im a little confused here, why and or how would they cover your loses?
sellthekids
08-04-2005, 05:31 AM
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Intercasino and I think some of the other cryptos ARE risk-free. Deposit $100 (this month, but usually it is $90), then they credit your acct. 100% bonus. Play blackjack (I just bet $5 for 500 hands) according to the chart they provide until you reach the WR (25X) or lose the bonus. Then quit. Any losses come out of the bonus first, so as long as you stop when your bonus is gone, it is truly risk-free. I've done it the last 2 months (ever since they made the bonus too hard to clear at the micros) and won $200-$300 in about 1.5 hours both times. I don't expect to do that well every time, but since I can't LOSE anything, I'll be back every month.
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Intercasino definitely bans if you "risk free" them too much. I'd hate to lose a decent poker bonus especially since they say they are revisiting the definition of a raked hand.
Omni, another Crypto though not risk free, also bonus bans just to mention another. Try doing $4000 of wagering up front only to realize they won't credit you the bonus because you're bonus banned /images/graemlins/mad.gif. What a PITA.
SteveM
08-04-2005, 10:08 AM
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Intercasino and I think some of the other cryptos ARE risk-free. Deposit $100 (this month, but usually it is $90), then they credit your acct. 100% bonus. Play blackjack (I just bet $5 for 500 hands) according to the chart they provide until you reach the WR (25X) or lose the bonus. Then quit. Any losses come out of the bonus first, so as long as you stop when your bonus is gone, it is truly risk-free. I've done it the last 2 months (ever since they made the bonus too hard to clear at the micros) and won $200-$300 in about 1.5 hours both times. I don't expect to do that well every time, but since I can't LOSE anything, I'll be back every month.
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let me get this str8, say i lose the $100, did i only lost the bonus cash? or did i lose my actuall 100 bucks i put on.
im a little confused here, why and or how would they cover your loses?
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Yes, that is correct. When you deposit the bonus will show up in your account but will not be "available for withdrawl" until you meet the 25X wagering requirement. You can even take out your initial deposit before playing a single hand. Either way, your losses come out of the bonus first, so as long as you stop playing if you lose the bonus before clearning the WR you can't lose any money (I was skeptical at first, too). When you hit the 25X WR, you can immediately withdraw everything in your account. If there's any drawback, it is this - I've heard that the WRs stack from month to month so if you bust out after betting, say only half of the WR, next month you will have to wager the remainder PLUS the current month's WR before being able to cash out your free money. Still, this clearly meets my definition of risk-free. And it isn't any secret, either, lots of 2+2ers do it every month. There were several threads about it when the bonus became all but unclearable at the micro poker tables.
As for "why or how would they cover your losses" I suppose they just want your action. Maybe most people who use the bonus will continue to play long after meeting the WR. Took me about 1.5 hours - after that all those games are -EV.
Finally, a disclaimer: They've changed some of their policies lately and there's no saying they can't change this one, too. It worked for me this month and last month - that's all I know for sure.
SteveM
08-04-2005, 10:15 AM
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Intercasino definitely bans if you "risk free" them too much. I'd hate to lose a decent poker bonus especially since they say they are revisiting the definition of a raked hand.
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I never heard of someone being banned there before. And if they ever do make the bonus clearable in the micros, I'd definitely hate to lose the $90/month. Maybe having all the micros players clear the bonus risk-free in the casino will encourage them to adopt more micro-friendly clearing requirements.
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Omni, another Crypto though not risk free, also bonus bans just to mention another. Try doing $4000 of wagering up front only to realize they won't credit you the bonus because you're bonus banned /images/graemlins/mad.gif. What a PITA.
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That seems unnecessary. At Interpoker, you can easily check to see that the bonus has or has not been credited BEFORE risking any of your own money.
Homer
08-05-2005, 03:18 PM
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www.ifuckgoats.com (http://www.ifuckgoats.com) is a good place to start
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No, it isn't. If it was, you wouldn't need to spam it, [censored].
BadBatsuMaru
08-06-2005, 03:24 AM
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www.ifuckgoats.com (http://www.ifuckgoats.com) is a good place to start
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No, it isn't. If it was, you wouldn't need to spam it, [censored].
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Well, I'll be damned. People will take any name you can think of and put up a link page while they squat on the domain.
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Kinda makes me want to fill out that form at http://www.ifuckgoats.com/contact.php and see what kind of response I get. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Jim Morrison
08-06-2005, 03:25 AM
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www.ifuckgoats.com (http://www.ifuckgoats.com) is a good place to start
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No, it isn't. If it was, you wouldn't need to spam it, [censored].
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Well, I'll be damned. People will take any name you can think of and put up a link page while they squat on the domain.
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ifuckgoats.com
All the best resources on the net
© 2005 ifuckgoats.com. All Rights Reserved. Contact Us
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Kinda makes me want to fill out that form at http://www.ifuckgoats.com/contact.php and see what kind of response I get. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Makes me wonder where my royalty checks are for all the whores who are stealing my goat [censored] line.
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