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schwza
08-02-2005, 10:56 AM
i'm still having trouble finding "push any 2" spots when i'm not a monster stack. is this one? my thinking was that with the relatively short BB, he's going to need a pretty strong hand to call, and i need the chips.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t1585)
UTG (t2430)
Hero (t1110)
SB (t2875)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, hero?

durron597
08-02-2005, 11:02 AM
I like pushing here, if the SB is not a loose caller.

DJ Sensei
08-02-2005, 11:03 AM
yea, you've probably got enough FE against both stacks to make it a profitable move, and you do need the chips, although this is the kind of hand that's been knocking me out on the bubble way too much lately when i get called by A4 or some garbage.

45suited
08-02-2005, 11:11 AM
I like folding here. I'd rather even take the blinds one more time than push with 6 high in this spot.

08-02-2005, 11:21 AM
Depends on the SB read. BB will fold almost every time. SB's call is going to be very tempting based on odds and the tendancy for people to push in this position on the button. If I'm SB, I call that push with many hands given my stack. I'm not particularly worried about getting bubbled even if I lose, and this is my chance to really build a huge lead and go for the W.

Also depends on how you've been playing. If you've played tight it makes a push more reasonable.

sng-sam
08-02-2005, 11:25 AM
5 big blinds is low but I think I want a better hand to push with...not much mind you but better than this one.

SAM

brimstone1
08-02-2005, 11:56 AM
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I like folding here. I'd rather even take the blinds one more time than push with 6 high in this spot.

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me too.
I'd push it like I never pushed before if I were in the SB and it was folded to me though

schwza
08-02-2005, 12:02 PM
ok, i should have specified this in my original post, but suppose the blinds are going to go up on me. then do you think a push is good?

after paying 150+300 i'd be down to T660 on my next button. other shorty would be at T1235 and in the BB.

gumpzilla
08-02-2005, 12:47 PM
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ok, i should have specified this in my original post, but suppose the blinds are going to go up on me. then do you think a push is good?

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Yes, this makes a huge difference. In the scenario you describe, this sounds like it is pretty much your last chance for folding equity. Good push.

11t
08-02-2005, 12:52 PM
Yah it is +EV to push here versus sane opponents.

11t
08-02-2005, 12:54 PM
You are losing money if you don't advantage of situations like this.

As long as the blinds have tight calling ranges though, that is what the key issue here is.

AliasMrJones
08-02-2005, 12:58 PM
In this particular instance, I like a fold. Somewhat better cards, like replace one of your cards with a J and I like it better.

alexd231232
08-02-2005, 12:58 PM
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I like folding here. I'd rather even take the blinds one more time than push with 6 high in this spot.

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agreed.... especially because it will look very much like a simple stealign of the blinds which will induce even more callers especially at such a small amount. No reason to go in with such dirty dirty rags

alexd231232
08-02-2005, 12:59 PM
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ok, i should have specified this in my original post, but suppose the blinds are going to go up on me. then do you think a push is good?


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BIG difference....

Dr_Jeckyl_00
08-02-2005, 01:14 PM
I think it depends. As I try to conquer good bubble play I prefer to have a mediocre hand from the button, any two from SB, and a very strong hand UTG (BB any two if only one person has limped). If I have not pushed in a while (i.e. no opportunity b/c other's have been aggressive, then I would push here.)