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skierdude1000
08-02-2005, 04:37 AM
STT] $5 NL 4062970-33 Holdem No Limit 100/200
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Hand Start.
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Seat 1 : Smallyboy has $5,000
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Seat 2 : porkepig has $2,220
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Seat 3 : Diese has $2,450
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Seat 5 : randy612 has $1,850
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Seat 7 : phatshaff has $2,420
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Seat 8 : checkitout has $4,060
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : phatshaff is the dealer.
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : checkitout posted small blind.
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Smallyboy posted big blind.
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Game [33] started with 6 players.
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Aug 2 08:32:45] : Seat 3 : Diese has Qc Kh
[Aug 2 08:32:48] : porkepig folded.
[Aug 2 08:32:52] : Diese called 200
[Aug 2 08:32:54] : randy612 called 200
[Aug 2 08:32:55] : phatshaff folded.
[Aug 2 08:32:56] : checkitout called 100
[Aug 2 08:32:58] : Smallyboy checked.
[Aug 2 08:32:59] : Dealing flop.
[Aug 2 08:32:59] : Board cards [Kd Ah Qh]
[Aug 2 08:33:00] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 2 min.
[Aug 2 08:33:02] : checkitout checked.
[Aug 2 08:33:04] : Smallyboy checked.
[Aug 2 08:33:12] : Diese bet 950
[Aug 2 08:33:14] : randy612 called 950
[Aug 2 08:33:14] : checkitout folded.
[Aug 2 08:33:17] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 2 min.
[Aug 2 08:33:19] : Smallyboy folded.
[Aug 2 08:33:19] : Dealing turn.
[Aug 2 08:33:19] : Board cards [Kd Ah Qh Th]
[Aug 2 08:33:28] : Diese bet 350
[Aug 2 08:33:30] : randy612 called 350
[Aug 2 08:33:30] : Dealing river.
[Aug 2 08:33:30] : Board cards [Kd Ah Qh Th 8c]
[Aug 2 08:33:33] : Diese bet 200
[Aug 2 08:33:34] : Stakes: 100/200 Current level: 4 Next level in: 1 min.
[Aug 2 08:33:34] : randy612 called 200
[Aug 2 08:33:35] : Showdown!
[Aug 2 08:33:35] : Seat 3 : Diese has Qc Kh
[Aug 2 08:33:36] : Seat 3 : Diese has Qc Kh
[Aug 2 08:33:36] : Diese has Two Pair: Kings and Queens
[Aug 2 08:33:36] : Seat 5 : randy612 has Kc Ac
[Aug 2 08:33:36] : randy612 has Two Pair: Aces and Kings
[Aug 2 08:33:36] : randy612 wins 3,800 with Two Pair: Aces and Kings


Comments please.... this is way to hard to lay down.

diconoclastx
08-02-2005, 04:42 AM
fold preflop

lorinda
08-02-2005, 04:42 AM
Preflop:

Raise or fold. There is no need to give the blinds a free flop here on the occasions you are ahead. Folding might be better, but I won't put off a $5 player from getting a bit aggro.

Flop:

Seems fine. There is no indication you are in trouble.

Turn/River:

Only you will know the true answer to this, and I don't care what you actually post the answer is, just be honest with yourself.

If you are making those silly bets to try to keep it cheap to get to showdown and see how you've done, then it's not too bad (although the 350 maybe should be even less) However if you're making them because you don't really know what to do, or because you think you are in front, then it's terrible.

Lori

Mr_J
08-02-2005, 05:13 AM
I'd raise preflop. I think you made this hand much more expensive than it had to be. I'd raise to 600 preflop. I think it'd give me a better idea of how to play that flop.

I don't like the flop bet, it's nearly half your stack. I'd bet less or push. I'd think AA & AK/Q are more likely to be limped than kings and queens, so that's what I'd expect to be up against if he has a better hand. I'd probally bet around 600 on that flop. If only randy calls again, I'd probally check the turn (probally horrible) to see how much he bets or checks and take it from there.

This is a $5 though so I'd probally just push the flop and watched that AJ outdraw me.

tigerite
08-02-2005, 05:15 AM
I really do not like a raise preflop here for 1/4 your stack when you have no intention of calling a re-raise. I fold preflop, and I don't think it's close.

USCSigma1097
08-02-2005, 09:43 AM
Well the first place you messed up was in your subject, as you apparently can't spell "steaming".

Sigma

PS Fold pre flop

11t
08-02-2005, 10:17 AM
Firstly, I dislike limping utg+1 generally speaking with KQos and I hate doing it in this position. You are at 12xbb and KQ is one of those hands that looks good and you want to see a flop but you don't feel comfortable raising because there are so many left to act behind you and you really cannot call a raise.

Preflop is a fold/raise situation since entering any pot at this point is going to probably cost you your stack to play. I think with KQ here folding is probably much more +EV than playing it.

Secondly, you saw a decent, but draw heavy flop, and proceeded to bet the pot. This was half of your remaining stack. Since you are only at 11xbb you in an awkward position where you want to protect your hand but you are basically committed to the pot if you bet. I would just open push the flop.

Thirdly, when the worse card in the deck hit putting both a flush and 1-card straight on the board you proceeded to bet LESS than you did on the flop. You have the king of hearts and a boat draw for re-draws. PUSH.

Lastly, min-betting the river is ridiculous.