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imported_CaseClosed326
08-01-2005, 09:00 PM
No reads, just sat down. I was planning to call the river if he bet.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB
baronzeus
08-01-2005, 09:03 PM
I highly suggest raising the turn. He is probably drawing to 7 outs and you want to make him pay.
imported_CaseClosed326
08-01-2005, 09:11 PM
Makes sense.
baronzeus
08-01-2005, 09:19 PM
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Makes sense.

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Sorry it's a bit results oriented since he checked the river. He could easily have AK, AQ, AA, KK, etc...but his range is probably so large that you should either bet the river (I doubt he raises since the flush came) or pop the turn. Raises 6-handed usually mean Ax with the X being anywhere between 6 and K, or a mid PP.
Paxosmotic
08-01-2005, 09:34 PM
Going off a combination of the short handed chart and my own thoughts, are you sure this is a blind defense and not a loose preflop call?
baronzeus
08-01-2005, 09:35 PM
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Going off a combination of the short handed chart and my own thoughts, are you sure this is a blind defense and not a loose preflop call?

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I always call here, since I have 2 live cards most of the time.

IE: it's a better call than Ax or Kx IMO.
Malcom Reynolds
08-01-2005, 09:38 PM
Looks fine if you think he's willing to steal liberally. Check raising the flop only puts in extra money when you have the worst hand, while check calling lets him bluff into you with continuation steal attempts.
chief444
08-01-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm loose in the BB and I fold this preflop.

I'd bet the river.
imported_CaseClosed326
08-01-2005, 10:12 PM
Ok, The more I think about this the worse it is. I understand that I am over defending.
666
08-01-2005, 10:21 PM
Preflop call aside, the rest of the hand seems standard if you think it is probably he has a K or better Q.
baronzeus
08-01-2005, 10:21 PM
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I'm loose in the BB and I fold this preflop.

I'd bet the river.

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Do you play 6max chief? Just wondering. I think this fold would be horrible in 6max, since it's in the top 25% of hands you can receive preflop.

That is all.
chief444
08-02-2005, 01:10 AM
There's a pretty substantial difference between a 6-handed full table and 6-max though as far as player aggression in general.
baronzeus
08-02-2005, 01:14 AM
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There's a pretty substantial difference between a 6-handed full table and 6-max though as far as player aggression in general.

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That may or may not be true based on the players, and Q9 is still representative of the top 25% of hands, and is very playable IMO.
toby
08-02-2005, 01:27 AM
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There's a pretty substantial difference between a 6-handed full table and 6-max though as far as player aggression in general.

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Agreed, real 6-max is far more aggressive. most full ring players don't adjust. I forget to adjust sometimes when multitabling and I don't even realize the game has gone short.