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Tropex

08-01-2005, 04:29 PM

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
2 folds, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, CO calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, CO calls, Hero caps, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (9 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (17 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls $1.50 (All-In).

Final Pot: 22.75 BB

Any thoughts ?

DMBFan23

08-01-2005, 04:35 PM

tequila and/or jager makes me feel that way a lot. moderation is the key.

as for the hand, I think three betting the river is excessive, but up to that point I like your play. AA/QQ are unlikely for many players, AQ probably plays this way but you never know...some players three bet it PF. either way, if he does have AQ he probably thinks he pwned your AK. I can't put him on AA/QQ enough to not play the flop and turn the way you did.

also there's no flush draw like KTs for him to be pumping on the flop.

anyways when he raises your river bet I would just call. the fact that you can't be capped and it's just 3/4 of a big bet more means it doesnt matter as much, but I think you are beaten too often here to 3 bet unless this dude is a nut

Tropex

08-01-2005, 04:54 PM

He didn't have QQ, AQ or AA... To be accurate, he had Q7o.......

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (14 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB caps, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (26 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 36 BB

That also made me sick... I did overbet it but the opponent only had better second pair.... sucks. I think I was tilting in this one - should I have left in time ?

RunDownHouse

08-01-2005, 05:00 PM

Um. You way overplayed this hand.

DMBFan23

08-01-2005, 05:02 PM

on which street? you c/call the river?

RunDownHouse

08-01-2005, 05:04 PM

The turn and river. I was referring to the second hand, btw. The first is fine.

DMBFan23

08-01-2005, 05:04 PM

oh. crap. nevermind.

Tropex

08-01-2005, 05:20 PM

Yea noticed but they would've capped 100% to the river, should I have folded when action got heavy ?

Tropex

08-01-2005, 05:24 PM

Also, I am not quite sure, but I've had a ROLLERCOASTER day. I mean first I start by going down about 45x BB (is that a lot btw), then got up to +3x BB, then came these hands and after that, turn or river set or runner runner flush for the opponent after another and another. I'm sure we've all been there. Just one of those days - Soo my question is

How big swings can I expect to see in these limits ? I might've been tilting a bit today though so the 50x BB I went down is probably partly that, but is this a lot, moderate or little ? (I'm quite new to $1/$2 and $100 feels like hell lot...)

DMBFan23

08-01-2005, 05:26 PM

search for "the 6-max graph thread"

JrJordan

08-01-2005, 05:29 PM

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How big swings can I expect to see in these limits ? I might've been tilting a bit today though so the 50x BB I went down is probably partly that, but is this a lot, moderate or little ? (I'm quite new to $1/$2 and $100 feels like hell lot...)

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You're in for a rude awakening. 50BB swings are daily for many of us.

RunDownHouse

08-01-2005, 05:30 PM

It sucks that you're going to get whipsawed between them. I might be able to dump when its two back to me on the turn. If not then, the river for sure when I haven't filled up.

Again, unless you have a specific read, remember that these guys err on the side of passivity. When an average LP 1/2 donk goes nuts, its time to be cautious.

Tropex

08-02-2005, 04:13 AM

Yea, figures. I thought I was against an overpair and AQ, I was wrong. I was against AA and Q8 ;]

Anyway, thanks for the info on the swings. I probably tilted a bit in the end but I'm all refreshed right now. $100 just feels so big since I'm new to these stakes... swings at 0.5/1 were just about 50-100$, this is nothing yet /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks.