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PinkSteel
08-01-2005, 09:38 AM
Thesis: I overplayed every one of these hands. Anyone disagree?

All comments appreciated. No decent reads.


Hand #1

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG ($33.12)
UTG+1 ($45.50)
UTG+2 ($75.95)
MP1 ($58.15)
MP2 ($98.20)
MP3 ($54.05)
<font color="#C00000">CO ($40.75)</font>
Button ($38.30)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($53.75)</font>
BB ($39.33)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, UTG+2 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises to $4.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, CO calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, CO calls $10.

Turn: ($31.50) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, CO calls $15.

River: ($61.50) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero calls $23.75 (All-In), CO calls $10.75 (All-In).

Final Pot: $96


Hand #2

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SB ($165.88)
BB ($15.90)
UTG ($44.85)
UTG+1 ($24.75)
MP1 ($20.85)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($30.72)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($25)</font>
CO ($6.20)
Button ($31.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.35) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $1.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, MP2 calls $4.25.

Turn: ($14.35) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP2 calls $23.72 (All-In), Hero calls $10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $56.07


Hand #3

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<font color="#C00000">UTG+2 ($21.80)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.85)</font>
MP2 ($24.05)
MP3 ($23.20)
CO ($1.70)
Button ($24.75)
SB ($28.75)
BB ($37)
UTG ($56.86)
UTG+1 ($60.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, SB calls $5, UTG+2 calls $5.

Turn: ($20) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, SB calls $6, UTG+2 calls $15.30 (All-In), Hero calls $12.35 (All-In), SB folds.

Final Pot: $59.65

ZootMurph
08-01-2005, 09:54 AM
Without any reads, I'd have pushed the betting on the turn more in hand 1. If he's calling a $15 bet, he's calling an allin, so get all the money in. If he has you beat, so be it.

On hand 2, I would have checked behind on the turn, as there are just too many hands that beat me here and hope for a river 10.

I really don't see anything wrong with hand 3. You may be up against a set or two pair, but it could just as likely be that you are up against a smaller pair or a draw.

Jocke_F
08-01-2005, 10:04 AM
without any reads and at the levels you play I dont think you overplayed any of them

RiverFenix
08-01-2005, 10:08 AM
You messed up the turn in all situations.
Push hand 1, c/f hand 2 and bet 15-18 hand 3.

PinkSteel
08-01-2005, 11:31 AM
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You messed up the turn in all situations.
Push hand 1, c/f hand 2 and bet 15-18 hand 3.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks for the replies. I'll apologize for the hidden bad-beat-ness of the post: I saw all three hands inside 30 minutes and lost them all.

But the pasting left me results-oriented, and I agree with RiverFenix's post above. I think I should have had everything in anyway with the first and third hands -- at the turn either I or villain have less than a pot-sized bet behind anyway. And *probably* folded #2 at the turn -- that's a pot overbet and too many hands beat me there.

TheWorstPlayer
08-01-2005, 11:35 AM
Hand 1: push the turn.

Hand 2: check the turn.

Hand 3: check the turn.