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Wevie
08-01-2005, 09:30 AM
First, let me apologize for the extremely long post.

I'm having a huge problem with my HU game. Over the last 175 tourneys, I've finished 3rd about 11%, 2nd about 18%, and first about 6%. My ROI should be much higher if I can find out my HU problems. I've pasted a recent HU play. In this one I did come out on top, but I chose it for its length. I understand its a lot to ask, but if anyone can analyze my play and give me any pointers, I'd really appreciate it. I would imagine there are some horrible plays, as I obviously suck at HU.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to look.

In order to shorten things up, I've deleted all hands where Villain folds from SB.




#Game No : 2459407387
***** Hand History for Game 2459407387 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:24:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4970 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3030 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2c 3s ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 300 chips
Game #2459407553 starts.


#Game No : 2459407762
***** Hand History for Game 2459407762 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4970 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3030 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc Ad ]
HERO raises [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 600 chips
Game #2459408106 starts.


#Game No : 2459408316
***** Hand History for Game 2459408316 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4670 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3330 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qh Qd ]
HERO raises [300].
VILLAIN calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Td, 7h ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [600].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1400 chips
Game #2459408736 starts.

#Game No : 2459408736
***** Hand History for Game 2459408736 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4270 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3730 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jc 5h ]
VILLAIN raises [1750].
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 2200 chips
Game #2459409053 starts.

#Game No : 2459409053
***** Hand History for Game 2459409053 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4570 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3430 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7h Th ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 450 chips
Game #2459409302 starts.


#Game No : 2459409512
***** Hand History for Game 2459409512 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4570 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3430 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6s 6h ]
HERO raises [850].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1300 chips
Game #2459409837 starts.

#Game No : 2459409837
***** Hand History for Game 2459409837 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4270 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3730 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Js 8c ]
VILLAIN raises [450].
HERO calls [300].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Ts, 4h ]
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1500 chips
Game #2459410213 starts.

#Game No : 2459410213
***** Hand History for Game 2459410213 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3670 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4330 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh 6s ]
HERO raises [750].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1200 chips
Game #2459410531 starts.


#Game No : 2459410749
***** Hand History for Game 2459410749 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3220 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4780 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3c 2d ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 450 chips
Game #2459410953 starts.

#Game No : 2459410953
***** Hand History for Game 2459410953 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3370 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4630 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5c 6h ]
VILLAIN calls [150].
HERO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, Ac, 8s ]
HERO checks.
VILLAIN checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 900 chips
Game #2459411368 starts.

#Game No : 2459411368
***** Hand History for Game 2459411368 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3070 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4930 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3d 6d ]
HERO calls [150].
VILLAIN checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, 6s, Jh ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 900 chips
Game #2459411764 starts.

#Game No : 2459411764
***** Hand History for Game 2459411764 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6c 2s ]
VILLAIN is all-In [2570]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 3170 chips
Game #2459412021 starts.

#Game No : 2459412021
***** Hand History for Game 2459412021 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:28:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3170 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4830 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6d Ks ]
HERO raises [600].
VILLAIN calls [400].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, Ad, As ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [400].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 2000 chips
Game #2459412395 starts.


#Game No : 2459412591
***** Hand History for Game 2459412591 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:28:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2170 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5830 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7d Tc ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 600 chips
Game #2459412818 starts.

#Game No : 2459412818
***** Hand History for Game 2459412818 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:28:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2370 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5630 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5d Jh ]
VILLAIN is all-In [2170]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 2770 chips
Game #2459413181 starts.

#Game No : 2459413181
***** Hand History for Game 2459413181 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:28:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2h 6s ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 600 chips
Game #2459413366 starts.


#Game No : 2459413564
***** Hand History for Game 2459413564 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:29:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ts Jd ]
HERO raises [600].
VILLAIN calls [400].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, As, 4d ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [400].
VILLAIN is all-In [1970]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 3970 chips
Game #2459413961 starts.



#Game No : 2459414147
***** Hand History for Game 2459414147 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:29:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ks 6s ]
HERO is all-In [4030]
VILLAIN is all-In [3370]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 3s, 7h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
HERO shows [ Ks, 6s ] a pair of kings.
VILLAIN shows [ 2c, 2h ] a pair of twos.
HERO wins 460 chips from side pot #1 with a pair of kings.
HERO wins 7540 chips from the main pot with a pair of kings.
VILLAIN finished in second place and won $30.
gg
VILLAIN has left the table.
Congratulations,HERO! You won $50.
HERO has left the table.
Table Closed
45suited
08-01-2005, 09:44 AM
With your disparity between 1sts and 2nds, you'd probably be better off just pushing every time from the button when the blinds get high. Why would you fold this hand? You also folded T7o from the button.


#Game No : 2459409053
***** Hand History for Game 2459409053 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4570 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3430 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7h Th ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 450 chips
Game #2459409302 starts.
tigerite
08-01-2005, 09:44 AM
T7 SOOOTED, you mean! I always would raise with that in this situation.
Maulik
08-01-2005, 09:47 AM
#Game No : 2459407762
***** Hand History for Game 2459407762 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4970 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3030 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc Ad ]
HERO raises [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 600 chips

raise 3x bb, if he re-raises, push all-in

#Game No : 2459408316
***** Hand History for Game 2459408316 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4670 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3330 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qh Qd ]
HERO raises [300].
VILLAIN calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Td, 7h ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [600].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1400 chips

I would play it differently ( same as above ) but given your action PF, I also act differently.
On the flop, check behind the Villian, there aren't any draws, let him try and bluff you if he hits a pair on the turn.

#Game No : 2459409512
***** Hand History for Game 2459409512 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4570 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3430 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6s 6h ]
HERO raises [850].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1300 chips

Just push, don't let him take you off of your hand.


#Game No : 2459409837
***** Hand History for Game 2459409837 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4270 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3730 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Js 8c ]
VILLAIN raises [450].
HERO calls [300].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Ts, 4h ]
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1500 chips

I don't like calling even, OOP.

#Game No : 2459411368
***** Hand History for Game 2459411368 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3070 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4930 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3d 6d ]
HERO calls [150].
VILLAIN checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, 6s, Jh ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 900 chips
eek, this is bad, don't complete w/ 36o


Need advice on HU play
#3020252 - 08/01/05 09:30 AM Edit Reply Quote



First, let me apologize for the extremely long post.

I'm having a huge problem with my HU game. Over the last 175 tourneys, I've finished 3rd about 11%, 2nd about 18%, and first about 6%. My ROI should be much higher if I can find out my HU problems. I've pasted a recent HU play. In this one I did come out on top, but I chose it for its length. I understand its a lot to ask, but if anyone can analyze my play and give me any pointers, I'd really appreciate it. I would imagine there are some horrible plays, as I obviously suck at HU.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to look.

In order to shorten things up, I've deleted all hands where Villain folds from SB.




#Game No : 2459407387
***** Hand History for Game 2459407387 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:24:54 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4970 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3030 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 2c 3s ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 300 chips
Game #2459407553 starts.


#Game No : 2459407762
***** Hand History for Game 2459407762 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4970 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3030 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kc Ad ]
HERO raises [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 600 chips
Game #2459408106 starts.


#Game No : 2459408316
***** Hand History for Game 2459408316 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4670 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3330 )
Trny:14446748 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qh Qd ]
HERO raises [300].
VILLAIN calls [200].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Td, 7h ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [600].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1400 chips
Game #2459408736 starts.

#Game No : 2459408736
***** Hand History for Game 2459408736 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:25:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4270 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3730 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jc 5h ]
VILLAIN raises [1750].
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 2200 chips
Game #2459409053 starts.

#Game No : 2459409053
***** Hand History for Game 2459409053 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:05 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4570 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3430 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7h Th ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 450 chips
Game #2459409302 starts.


#Game No : 2459409512
***** Hand History for Game 2459409512 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4570 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3430 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6s 6h ]
HERO raises [850].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1300 chips
Game #2459409837 starts.

#Game No : 2459409837
***** Hand History for Game 2459409837 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $4270 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $3730 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Js 8c ]
VILLAIN raises [450].
HERO calls [300].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, Ts, 4h ]
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1500 chips
Game #2459410213 starts.

#Game No : 2459410213
***** Hand History for Game 2459410213 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:26:52 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3670 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4330 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh 6s ]
HERO raises [750].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 1200 chips
Game #2459410531 starts.


#Game No : 2459410749
***** Hand History for Game 2459410749 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:15 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3220 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4780 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3c 2d ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 450 chips
Game #2459410953 starts.

#Game No : 2459410953
***** Hand History for Game 2459410953 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3370 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4630 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5c 6h ]
VILLAIN calls [150].
HERO checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, Ac, 8s ]
HERO checks.
VILLAIN checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2h ]
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 900 chips
Game #2459411368 starts.

#Game No : 2459411368
***** Hand History for Game 2459411368 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3070 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4930 )
Trny:14446748 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 3d 6d ]
HERO calls [150].
VILLAIN checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, 6s, Jh ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [300].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 900 chips
Game #2459411764 starts.

#Game No : 2459411764
***** Hand History for Game 2459411764 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:27:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6c 2s ]
VILLAIN is all-In [2570]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 3170 chips
Game #2459412021 starts.

#Game No : 2459412021
***** Hand History for Game 2459412021 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:28:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3170 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4830 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6d Ks ]
HERO raises [600].
VILLAIN calls [400].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, Ad, As ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [400].
VILLAIN folds.
HERO does not show cards.
HERO wins 2000 chips
Game #2459412395 starts.


#Game No : 2459412591
***** Hand History for Game 2459412591 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:28:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2170 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5830 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7d Tc ]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 600 chips

(I'd push this, because he really wants those t600 chips and isn't going to call you without a strong hand. You have not moved him all-in PF.

#Game No : 2459413564
***** Hand History for Game 2459413564 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:29:13 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $2770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $5230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ts Jd ]
HERO raises [600].
VILLAIN calls [400].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ac, As, 4d ]
VILLAIN checks.
HERO bets [400].
VILLAIN is all-In [1970]
HERO folds.
VILLAIN does not show cards.
VILLAIN wins 3970 chips
I don't like the min-raise, just complete or push here.

***** Hand History for Game 2459414147 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:29:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ks 6s ]
HERO is all-In [4030]
VILLAIN is all-In [3370]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 3s, 7h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
HERO shows [ Ks, 6s ] a pair of kings.
VILLAIN shows [ 2c, 2h ] a pair of twos.

you had no reason to push allin here, a fold would have been better

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45suited
08-01-2005, 09:53 AM
[ QUOTE ]
***** Hand History for Game 2459414147 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14446748 Level:8 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, August 01, 08:29:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 35054 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 2
Seat 10: VILLAIN ( $3770 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $4230 )
Trny:14446748 Level:8
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ks 6s ]
HERO is all-In [4030]
VILLAIN is all-In [3370]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, 3s, 7h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5c ]
HERO shows [ Ks, 6s ] a pair of kings.
VILLAIN shows [ 2c, 2h ] a pair of twos.

you had no reason to push allin here, a fold would have been better

[/ QUOTE ]

Maulik, are you kidding? There's 600 in blinds out there and hero has K6s. Folding would be atrocious. Pushing is the only play here.
Wevie
08-01-2005, 09:55 AM
So, what I'm seeing is that my medium suited cards need to be played more and Kx isn't always a good push.

From the SB I should be raising more with 10-7 suited and other similar hands.

How far do we take this?

J9s
10 6s
5 7s
Q6s

How about the suited connectors? Obviously the higher ones, but 4-5 or 5-6?

I really appreciate the comments.
tigerite
08-01-2005, 09:55 AM
I'd push K6s and I really don't think it's close, with 200/400 blinds.
Wevie
08-01-2005, 09:57 AM
And if its not suited?
Maulik
08-01-2005, 09:58 AM
Yeah, that's an easy push, wtf am I thinking =[ I really have no reason not to push that, its effing t600, apologies
tigerite
08-01-2005, 09:58 AM
[ QUOTE ]
And if its not suited?

[/ QUOTE ]

I still push!
Maulik
08-01-2005, 10:00 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And if its not suited?

[/ QUOTE ]

I still push!

[/ QUOTE ]

I concur.
tigerite
08-01-2005, 10:02 AM
Does anyone like the call by Villian with 22, by the way? I really don't. I want 44+ to call in his spot.
45suited
08-01-2005, 10:06 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Does anyone like the call by Villian with 22, by the way? I really don't.

[/ QUOTE ]

Neither do I. I fold and push the next hand.
Uppercut
08-01-2005, 10:24 AM
I stopped reading after your first action on your first hand history. I know 32o is the worst headsup hand there is, but you are on the button and in position after the flop, which is a huuuuuge advantage. I always complete my small blind PF when headsup, UNLESS my opponent always raises his BB pre-flop. Only then I will throw trash like 32o away. But, the first decent hand I get (top 30%), I'm completing and then going all-in to his inevitable BB raise.

PS I've only played 97 SnGs, but my headsup record is 17-2.
DrPhysic
08-01-2005, 12:47 PM
Wevie,

“So, what I'm seeing is that my medium suited cards need to be played more...”

Yes, depending on circumstances. Your stack, his stack, and position primarily. T9s, J8s, Q3s, and K2s are the lowest of the top 40% of all hands and usually not bad plays esp if you are first in. They are 52% or better to win played to the river against a random hand. Lower suited connectors are only 50% or worse against a random played to the river.

“...Kx isn't always a good push.”

Any king hand in HU play is not a bad hand but not all kings were born equal. KK – KJs are in the top 10% of all hands, K8s, KTo and up are in the top 20%, K5s, K7o and up are in the top 30%, K2s, K4o are top 40%, and K3o, K2o are only top 50%.

Your K6s is in the top 30% of all hands and 56.6% to win against a random hand. (If you don’t have PokerStove poker calculator, get it. www.pokerstove.com (http://www.pokerstove.com)) You have a 10BB stack, therefore you are OK, not desperate yet. He has 9BB and is in about the same position, but you have him covered. This is a pretty good place to get all his chips in the middle. Don’t be led down the garden path, however, by the push/fold crowd. Is pushing the best way to get the chips on the table? I don’t think so in this case. Bet 1200 or 1600, to see if you can get a rise out of him. If he raises, you have all the chips in right then. If he calls, you put him in on the flop because you now have him pretty close to being pot committed. By raising instead of pushing you give him an opportunity to play a bunch of medium hands that he would probably have folded against a push.

“From the SB I should be raising more with 10-7 suited and other similar hands?”

Let’s start lower than that: On your first hand, 32o, he put 200 in the BB, you put 100 in. There’s 300 in the pot and it only costs you 100 to call. 3-1 pot odds. Any 2 cards are no worse than 2-1 against a random hand. So you always have pot odds to call from the SB. If he catches on and starts coming over every time you limp, you’ll have to back off and not do it all the time. You’d be amazed how many people playing HU, never get it.

Now, from SB should you be raising with T7s etc? Here is a place where you use the “Any 2 cards can win” philosophy. The lowest hands that fall in the top 50% of all hands (even money to win against a random played to the river) are Q2s, Q5o, J5s, J8o, T7s, T9o, and 98s. But you can even dig deeper than that if you want. The super aggressives like Hanson and Ivey do it all the time with hands like 86s (or worse). He who bets first has the advantage. The gap concept says the other guy has to have a hand he thinks is enough better than your opener to call. Bob Ciaffone calls it “Right of first bluff.”

Another way to look at the same thing is: “Did you give him the opportunity to fold?” If you don’t raise, he does not have the opportunity to fold. Every time you just call PF from the small blind, you let him look at 3 free cards.

“How about the suited connectors?”

You already have this right. Suited connectors play well in hands with lots of players. They need big wins for a small investment to pay off the few times they actually win. Heads Up is a big card game.

Please don't take my word for it. Here are some heads up or shorthanded references that may help.

Brunson SS NLHE “Short Handed play” p510.
Ciaffone, Improve Your Poker, “Shorthanded Poker”, p36.
Ciaffone, Middle Limit Holdem Poker, “Shorthanded Play”, p306.
Sklansky, Theorey of Poker, ch 21 “Heads Up on the End”, p199 (Only partially applicable to HU play, read in context),
Sklansky & Malmuth, HEPFAP, Part 5, “Playing Short Handed”, p183.
Sklansky, HEP, “Head Up vs Multi-Way”, p70 (this is really about multi-way, you have to invert his logic).
Suzuki, Poker Tournament Strategies, “Playing Short-Handed Poker”, p103.
Sklansky, TPFAP, “Down to 2 Players”, p86.
Malmuth, Poker Essays, “Playing Shorthanded, Part 1&2, p151.
There is a reference in Vorhaus, Killer Poker, but I can’t find it.
King Yao, Weighing the Odds in Holdem Poker, p250 (this is a limit holdem book)
Brunson SS II NLHE “Short Handed play” p618
Harrington, Harrington on Holdem Vol II, Part 11 Short tables, p275
Harrington, Harrington on Holdem Vol II, Part 12 Heads Up, p363

Some of these are short references on HU, not worth the investment just for the HU information. Read if you have it. The one I would buy just for the HU section is HOH Vol II.

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Wevie
08-01-2005, 07:13 PM
Great post Dr.

I'll definitely go back and re-read some of those book sections. HoHv2 should be here this weekend.

Give them a chance to fold. Guess I never thought of it that way. A concept I'll have to ponder.
DrPhysic
08-01-2005, 08:09 PM
If you thought HOH VI was good, and you want to know how to play HU, you're going to LOVE VII.

BTW, I also am still a learner. I only placed 11th in the 128 player HU Holdem Matches on Stars yesterday. I'll try to do better in the 256 player HU match tonight.

Doc