Getting short in the BB, good call?

[Bigwig]

Party $50. Villain was a bit of a cowboy. He often showed down good cards, but raised many pots, and had blown a big chip lead before building it up again (off me, unfortunately, on the previous orbit with his huge T6o). So he could have a very wide range.

Please add your comments as well as answer the poll. Thanks.





***** Hand History for Game 2457663142 *****
200/400 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 14437470) - Sun Jul 31 23:05:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 12379 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: BobSimNYC (1145)
Seat 3: brkmyblls666 (2830)
Seat 4: HERO (1425)
Seat 5: hyrne55 (1890)
Seat 8: Da_Champion0 (2710)
brkmyblls666 posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ac, 4s ]
hyrne55 folds.
Da_Champion0 folds.
BobSimNYC folds.
brkmyblls666 raises (2730) to 2830
brkmyblls666 is all-In.
HERO calls (1225)
HERO is all-In.

[bluefeet]

eh...don't like it much. you'll clear the blinds with some FE intact (in comparison to the others). bide your time, looking to open-push on the other side of the blinds.

[vinyard]

I absolutely hate this call. I would rather push trash from the SB or the button than make this call.

[curtains]

I beleive you should fold, and you arent getting short!!! It's probably closer than the previous posters imply but I suspect that against a normal player's range here you should lay this down.

Okay it's probably not close at all and is a clear fold. Dont you have SNG Power Tools man?

[Maulik]

Let me tell you how bad a call this is. I've done it before and used to think of it as good against a donkey, but the possible outcomes are:

you fold, and have t1225
you double up & have t2800+

Either way his hand ranges leave you at a race for all of your chips (when you still have good FE).
Its likely you are, dominated, because its very possible he's got a higher Ace or a PP of 55+. Clearly a fold in this situation. =\

And as mentioned you can hopefully push into BB next hand.

[CaptSensible]

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eh...don't like it much. you'll clear the blinds with some FE intact (in comparison to the others). bide your time, looking to open-push on the other side of the blinds.

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This was my thinking as well.

[vinyard]

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Dont you have SNG Power Tools man?

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I do. Although the first time I posed these numbers they were using 250/500 blinds. The following are the EV Calls for OP given the pushing range of villain on the left. $EV Fold is $27.90

Here are the details
1. 66+,ATs+,AJo+ $EV Call $14.73
2. 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+ $EV Call $16.05
3. 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs $EV Call $20.17
4. 22+,A2+,K2+,Q2s+,Q6o+,J7s+,J9o+,T8s+,98s $EV Call $26.10
5. Any Two: $EV Call $29.76

[curtains]

Im confused about what you just posted? The numbers are hard to read although they somehow seemed off to me.

[Maulik]

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Im confused about what you just posted? The numbers are hard to read although they somehow seemed off to me.

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I think he posted pushing range of Hero, not to be confused with OP calling!

[Bigwig]

Eh, perhaps I've lost it mentally a little. I've had two pretty crappy weeks of even play. I'm not very happy about it.

[curtains]

Ok now the results make sense.....before the numbers seemed way off, but he did them for the wrong blind limit.

[psyduck]

this is so horrible! what are you thinking????

[morgan180]

if he's a cowboy then pushing any ace seems to be a logical play on his part (although it could be many more hands) if it is an ace, which is likely you've only got A3 and A2 that you're in front of, opposed to 10 Ax combos you're behind. let this one go.