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octaveshift
07-30-2005, 10:15 PM
I'd dodged several bullets in the game already, mucking AK PF against 2 pocket pairs, and dropping AQ against AK. I was very happy with my laydowns. Then this hand happened. ...

The pusher was kind of a donk. I've had such an incredibly bad run today, I am wondering if I even know how to play $^@&*# poker.

#Game No : 2451463549
***** Hand History for Game 2451463549 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14403732 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Saturday, July 30, 21:57:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 12122 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: beachboy118 ( $1610 )
Seat 4: Locolarry2 ( $1790 )
Seat 5: eissakha ( $675 )
Seat 9: LastCardC ( $1160 )
Seat 6: airafeek ( $1575 )
Seat 8: xyrophobic ( $895 )
Seat 1: smhandlon ( $1545 )
Seat 3: LCcannon ( $750 )
Trny:14403732 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xyrophobic [ Jc Jh ]
LastCardC folds.
smhandlon raises [200].
beachboy118 folds.
LCcannon calls [200].
Locolarry2 folds.
eissakha is all-In [675]
airafeek folds.
xyrophobic ???

lastchance
07-30-2005, 10:26 PM
Pusher = kind of a donk.
Unless minraise = AA/KK, I'm all-in over the top.

octaveshift
07-30-2005, 10:32 PM
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Pusher = kind of a donk.
Unless minraise = AA/KK, I'm all-in over the top.

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That's the elegant beauty of the minraise. I can never figure out WTF it means. And then to have a smooth call after?

What hands would you put the minraiser/caller on?

lastchance
07-30-2005, 10:34 PM
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Pusher = kind of a donk.
Unless minraise = AA/KK, I'm all-in over the top.

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That's the elegant beauty of the minraise. I can never figure out WTF it means. And then to have a smooth call after?

What hands would you put the minraiser/caller on?

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Well, generally, there are two kinds of minraise:
1. "I'm a donk who doesn't think betting 3x BB is good, I constantly minbet because I don't want to get involved."
2. "Please give me action."

It really depends on how much original raiser has minbet in the past.

octaveshift
07-30-2005, 10:44 PM
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1. "I'm a donk who doesn't think betting 3x BB is good, I constantly minbet because I don't want to get involved."


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We're definitely dealing with #2 here...

Newt_Buggs
07-31-2005, 02:44 AM
if you think that the mini raise wants to encourage action then definitly fold, but usually I would push here. There's not enough evidence that you're dominated and there's a lot of dead money in the pot.

07-31-2005, 02:48 AM
Theres alot of action in front of you. I woudl be really sad and fold /images/graemlins/frown.gif. I hate getting involved in pots with lots of action unless i have AA, KK or AK. I say AK tho cuase i play at $11's so ppl will call me with AQ-A2 lol /images/graemlins/grin.gif

lastchance
07-31-2005, 02:49 AM
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1. "I'm a donk who doesn't think betting 3x BB is good, I constantly minbet because I don't want to get involved."


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We're definitely dealing with #2 here...

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Then fold to AA/KK.

tigerite
07-31-2005, 07:02 PM
This looks very much like this hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t775)
MP1 (t745)
MP2 (t1140)
CO (t820)
Button (t1260)
SB (t640)
Hero (t920)
UTG (t1700)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero is all-in for t890, UTG calls t860, MP2 calls t770.

Flop: (t2775) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP2 is all-in for t220, UTG calls t220.

Turn: (t3215) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (t3215) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3215

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ah Jh (high card, ace).
MP2 has Qd Qc (one pair, queens).
Hero has Ac As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins t2775. MP2 wins t440. </font>