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Bartman387
07-30-2005, 02:20 AM
FullTiltPoker Game #169390984: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (1059026), Table 1 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:09:32 ET - 2005/07/30
Seat 1: blockbuster (1,315)
Seat 2: Bartman387 (2,650)
Seat 3: rabbit_hunter (4,050)
Seat 5: mindspin311 (2,470)
Seat 6: gozman (3,015)
gozman posts the small blind of 80
blockbuster posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bartman387 [Ks Qc]
Bartman387 raises to 320
rabbit_hunter folds
mindspin311 folds
gozman raises to 3,015, and is all in
blockbuster folds
Bartman387 calls 2,330, and is all in

Villain has gone over top all in of peoples raises quite a few times in the last few orbits and won the pot uncontested. What would you do?

Results below:
<font color="white">gozman shows [Kh Kd]
Bartman387 shows [Ks Qc]
Uncalled bet of 365 returned to gozman
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7h 8d]
*** TURN *** [Qh 7h 8d] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Qh 7h 8d 8c] [2c]
gozman shows two pair, Kings and Eights
Bartman387 shows two pair, Queens and Eights
gozman wins the pot (5,460) with two pair, Kings and Eights
Bartman387 stands up
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KramerTM
07-30-2005, 02:26 AM
80/160? That's an exotic blind level.

First of all, I'm not raising this UTG. Second of all, if I am raising, I'm raising more than the minimum. Third of all, this is an easy fold after Villain comes over the top.

This reminds me of a common mistake people make. Sometimes players realize that a player is moving all-in a lot. SO they tell themsevles, "Oh boy, I'm going to catch this guy with his hand in the cookie jar." And they end up getting impatient and call him with 22 and the guy wins when one of his two raggedy overcards hits on the flop. The point is, you want to wait for a better spot than KQo to catch this guy. A lot of times, people being overly aggressive like this are moving in with any Ax. That would mean you would be calling his all-in as a dog (in probably a SLIGHTLY +EV situation). Wait for a big +EV situation to catch him. You certainly have enough of a stack to wait him out.

07-30-2005, 08:56 PM
I agree with kramer 100%
this was an easy lay down. You had plenty of chips and could have lived ot fight another day.
You had to figure that at best it was a coin flip and you learned that this guy was an idiot, but let the idiot have his little pot and make him run into you when you know you have him beat