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Dynasty
07-29-2005, 10:41 PM
Link to FoxNews Story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164171,00.html)

LOS ANGELES — Astronomers announced Friday that they have discovered a new planet larger than Pluto (search) in orbit around the sun, likely renewing debate over what exactly is a planet and whether Pluto should keep its status.

The planet — the farthest-known object in the solar system — is currently 9 billion miles away from the sun, or about three times Pluto's current distance from the sun.

"This is the first object to be confirmed to be larger than Pluto in the outer solar system," Michael Brown, a planetary scientist at the California Institute of Technology (search), said in a telephone briefing Friday.

Brown labeled the object as a 10th planet, but there are scientists who dispute the classification of Pluto as such.

Astronomers do not know the new planet's exact size, but its brightness shows that it is at least as large as Pluto and could be up to 11/2 times bigger. The research was funded by NASA (search).

Brown has submitted a name for the new planet to the International Astronomical Union (search), which has yet to act on the proposal, but he did not release the proposed name Friday.

The briefing was hastily arranged after Brown received word that a secure Web site containing the discovery was hacked and the hacker threatened to release the information.

Brown and colleagues Chad Trujillo of the Gemini Observatory and David Rabinowitz of Yale University first photographed the object in 2003 using a 48-inch telescope at the Palomar Observatory.

But it was so far away that its motion was not detected until data was analyzed again this past January. It will take at least six months before astronomers can determine its exact size.

It has taken scientists this long to find the planet because its orbit is at an angle compared to the orbits of most planets. The new planet is rocky and icy, similar to Pluto, Brown said.

Alan Stern of the Southwestern Research Institute in Boulder, Colo., said he was not surprised by the discovery since other objects around the size of Pluto have been found in the Kuiper belt, a disc of icy debris beyond the orbit of Neptune.

What's unique about the latest finding is that the object appears to be bigger than Pluto, he said.

"Unless they've made a grave mistake, this is for real," said Stern, who had no role in the discovery.


Here's a space.com article (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050729_new_planet.html)

mmbt0ne
07-29-2005, 10:50 PM
In the latest story I saw, they had revised estimates to 70% the size of Pluto. Still pretty cool.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/article.ns?id=dn7751

kasey2004
07-29-2005, 10:51 PM
Interesting... i learn something new every day.

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cbfair
07-29-2005, 10:55 PM
This is old news...

Zacharia Sitchin has been writing about the 12th planet (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/038039362X/ref%3Dpd%5Fsl%5Faw%5Falx-jeb-7-1%5Fbook%5F2515768%5F2/002-0384928-3868852) for years. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

He calls it Nibiru.

Edited the name of the planet Sitchin claims is out there.

Alobar
07-30-2005, 12:06 AM
meh, not a planet. Just some astronomers and a school looking for more fame and grant money.

-Skeme-
07-30-2005, 12:07 AM
Writing about a nonexistant 12th planet and actually locating a very real 10th are slightly different. Unless you were joking.

SinCityGuy
07-30-2005, 12:15 AM
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meh, not a planet. Just some astronomers and a school looking for more fame and grant money.

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Same with Pluto. An asteroid that escaped out of the belt, now in an elliptical orbit. If Pluto is a planet, then there are probably dozens more. Neptune is the outermost of the real planets.

Harv72b
07-30-2005, 12:17 AM
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Edited the name of the planet Sitchin claims is out there.

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Yeah, Marduk/Tiamat was the planet that disintigrated between Earth and Mars, creating the asteroid belt & while it was at it, leapfrogging the space-faring gods of old to Earth, where they were then able to genetically engineer ancient man in order to mine gold & such for them. Duh. :rolleyes:

I thought sure this thread would have something to do with Roseanne Barr/Kirstey Alley.

cbfair
07-30-2005, 12:39 AM
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Writing about a nonexistant 12th planet and actually locating a very real 10th are slightly different. Unless you were joking.

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Uh, yeah. It's a compelling read and I've recommended it many times but there are quite a few holes in his claims.

They're slightly different alright; and it's pretty cool that there's probably another planet out there...

TimTimSalabim
07-30-2005, 01:56 AM
Are they going to call it Goofy?