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07-29-2005, 03:25 PM
I had no clue what to with this hand PF. What are your thoughts after the flop? Villian had not been tight at all.

this is a $11 btw
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1095)
SB (t2470)
BB (t3025)
Hero (t1410)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls t325, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t950) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t150</font>, SB calls t860.

Turn: (t1960) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1960) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1960

Converter messed up but i raised all in on his bet and he called.

TheSalche
07-29-2005, 03:37 PM
tough spot ... id venture to guess he called your PF raise with a 9 and beat you there

i might raise it a bit more PF, possibly even just plain push ... if you dont feel comfortable then fold it and hope the button blinds out before you do

MegaBet
07-29-2005, 03:53 PM
Poooosh!

Well that's what I'd do on the $55s. $11s are so unpredictable, so assuming they will call with any 2 random cards, it's not that clear cut. I would still push it though.

durron597
07-29-2005, 03:54 PM
Definitely do not raise to 400. With your stack and these blinds I fold, but I don't think pushing is terrible.

11t
07-29-2005, 04:03 PM
I think pushing here is pretty marginal and I don't think I'd do it at the 11's. The calling standards are just WAY to wide. A8 is probably the worst I'd push in this position.

Matt R.
07-29-2005, 04:09 PM
I'd definitely fold here, but it's close. I'd probably want 1200 or fewer chips to make this a push. Mostly because this is a 10 and you're gonna get called a lot.

durron597
07-29-2005, 04:13 PM
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I think pushing here is pretty marginal and I don't think I'd do it at the 11's. The calling standards are just WAY to wide. A8 is probably the worst I'd push in this position.

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Like I said. I would fold, but pushing is not terrible (read: marginal). It's really not horrible, but folding is better.

networkman
07-29-2005, 04:16 PM
With your read on the SB its a fold.

yabastid
07-29-2005, 04:53 PM
I really don't like the raise I think you push or fold but I would fold here.

yabastid

Nottom
07-29-2005, 05:38 PM
I think I'd fold it preflop and not feel bad about it at all.

You have almost 10BBs and a decent edge over the 4th place guy A6o isn't a great hand and you don't really "need" those chips.

After the flop comes I don't think you can fold. I might just check-call if I felt weak but I don't really see myself folding here usually. Of course I could be wrong and it may be an easy fold if he pushes the turn.

Nottom
07-29-2005, 05:40 PM
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Definitely do not raise to 400. With your stack and these blinds I fold, but I don't think pushing is terrible.

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I might be crazy, but I almost prefer the 400 raise to a push. Thats how much I don't like pushing here.

valenzuela
07-29-2005, 05:46 PM
fold &gt;minraise &gt;pushing &gt;betting 400&gt;limping.
Anyone agrees

07-29-2005, 05:47 PM
My thought was that i could be able to steal blinds, but if someone came over the top i would fold(unless it was the Short stack). Unfortunatly when the flop came it was hard to get away from theh hand, especially since i had seen villian betting with junk before.
Btw if this thought process is incorrect some1 tell me quick so i can stop playing like a donk /images/graemlins/smile.gif

07-29-2005, 05:56 PM
I've been burned like this two many times, so I refuse to bet any hand I can't afford to play to conclusion on the bubble. Push or fold, and I'd really have to see your opponents in action to know which to do in this situation. I'm not uncomfortable pushing with any ace when I'm shortstacked--You're getting close to that point but are you there yet?

The other question is how likely is shortstack to push with any two during the next orbit? Is there money to be made by watching someone eat him and folding into the money then making a push yourself?

MegaBet
07-29-2005, 06:16 PM
With 4 players left, can you really afford to wait for a top 10 hand? Poker is a gamble, and I'd gamble with A6 in this position.

psyduck
07-29-2005, 08:28 PM
what that read on villain, fold preflop. what makes this worse is that both the SB and BB have a stack twice the size of yours.

jskinn04
07-29-2005, 09:53 PM
Push or fold are your only options. Had you seen the big stack call any all-ins earlier in the tournament? If so, what did he call with? If you haven't moved all-in much in the tournament and very few people have been making that bet in the many hands right before this one, I would push. If people have been making a lot of all-in moves preflop or the BB/ big stack has shown he will call all-ins then you fold.