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La Brujita
07-28-2005, 09:13 PM
My friends are getting married and asked if I could gamble whatever money I was going to give them.

They said if I lose no wedding present.

I feel real weird about it but I figured wtf. If I lose I will just give them a present.

But I am feeling intense pressure gambling $200 at the 2-4. 30-60 is my regular game but for some reason this feels like more pressure.

Anyone have friends who ask this of you?

Who keeps the rakeback, I am kinda greedy I might keep it.

MrGrob
07-28-2005, 09:32 PM
Interesting...is there like an agreed upon point where you are going to stop playing for them? It seems that you are going to lose more by not playing your 30/60 then you can make at 2/4...

What about adding the 200 to your buy in at the 30/60 table and add and subtract the % of roll to and from their $200.

IE, buy in for 2000 instead of 1800, and take 10% of you winnings and add it to their $200 if you win, or subtract 10% if you lose. Give it a certain amount of time or certain profit margin for them and then quit.

Seems like that will keep you in the big game and make them and you more cash then if you sit at the 2/4 table only for them…and you get to keep your rakeback with no worries!

Just an idea...

kasey2004
07-28-2005, 09:33 PM
This is one of the most annoying requests anyone ever asks me. I am in college and i have friends ask me every once in a while hey can i give u money and whatever u win give me ? My usual answer is if u can bankroll me in major tournements and cover my losses i will give u a percentage... oh, u dont have $10,000 ? oh well. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/images/graemlins/spade.gif Kasey /images/graemlins/spade.gif

jba
07-28-2005, 09:43 PM
sit at 200 NL table

push preflop using some pre-determined chart. maybe take HOH starting hands, if he says raise you push (taking into consideration position and opponent action, ie KQs open-push but fold to raise etc).

IF your opponents all fold, repeat step 2

IF your opponent(s) call and you win, give your winnings to the happy couple

IF your opponent(s) call and you lose, buy a toaster

La Brujita
07-28-2005, 09:45 PM
Interesting thought. I thought of that but the 30 is so much swingier, I kind of want to not push small edges and just win a bit. I think my true win rate at 2-4 is probably somewhere between 2-3 times true win rate at 30 so chance of loss I guess much lower.

I get a lot of requests where people say here's 50 can you gamble it for me. Normally that is annoying and I just say f off.

The thing about staying in my game is for me at least, I don't get that many hands in like I should at the 30. Here at the 2-4 I can just jump into four tables and gamble it up.

Right now I am up $150 and am pissed they are getting such a good wedding present.

One note editorially, it is incredible to me how much different these two games are. Not incredible but it is almost like two different games. One is all isolate raise, steal and defend blinds, deal with laggy donks who check raise every turn.

Other is like SSHE coming from print to my computer.

Edit to say if I lose it all they are getting a cheap ass present. Probably a regifter or Wal Mart special.

Nigel
07-28-2005, 09:53 PM
Hey man,

I would say just quit the 2/4 while you're up and give them the money. No more pressure for you and they'll be psyched I'm sure. Or, you could just sit there and grind them out a 30/60 bankroll. ;-)

Cheers,

Nigel

Sponger15SB
07-28-2005, 10:12 PM
Hmmm....yeah Justin A is getting married in a week, instead of giving him a present I lost $200 playing $33 SNGs today.

Congrats Justin, you'll get nothing and like it.

La Brujita
07-28-2005, 10:33 PM
Ended up playing 282 hands up 114. I figured the greedy bastards will be happy with 314.

Paluka
07-28-2005, 10:35 PM
Shouldn't u just have played a 200+15 SNG?

La Brujita
07-28-2005, 10:40 PM
I didn't want to be in a position where 60% chance they were getting Jaclyn Smith gear.

If they were gamblers it woulda been fun just buying into a 215 multi.

But if I won I would just end the friendship.

pecto
07-28-2005, 11:06 PM
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I am in college and i have friends ask me every once in a while hey can i give u money and whatever u win give me ? My usual answer is if u can bankroll me in major tournements and cover my losses i will give u a percentage... oh, u dont have $10,000 ? oh well. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/images/graemlins/spade.gif Kasey /images/graemlins/spade.gif

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Same here

edge
07-29-2005, 01:47 AM
Accepting an offer to play with someone else's money (except for a reasonable staking deal) is just a bad idea. It will not turn out well for all sides.

Matador225
07-29-2005, 02:05 AM
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Accepting an offer to play with someone else's money (except for a reasonable staking deal) is just a bad idea. It will not turn out well for all sides.

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I agree 100%

timprov
07-29-2005, 02:24 AM
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This is one of the most annoying requests anyone ever asks me. I am in college and i have friends ask me every once in a while hey can i give u money and whatever u win give me ? My usual answer is if u can bankroll me in major tournements and cover my losses i will give u a percentage... oh, u dont have $10,000 ? oh well. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

/images/graemlins/spade.gif Kasey /images/graemlins/spade.gif

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This is the nice thing about having friends who aren't idiots. I've never had anybody suggest this sort of thing.

Siingo
07-29-2005, 05:58 AM
They should be!

elmo
07-29-2005, 08:41 AM
I'm playing 8 hours for my wedding gift to my sister and her fiance.

La Brujita
07-29-2005, 08:51 AM
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Accepting an offer to play with someone else's money (except for a reasonable staking deal) is just a bad idea. It will not turn out well for all sides.

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I'm not trying to sound like some big time gambler because I am not but it is one thing if it is an amount of money that means something to you, another if it is just fun. If I lost the $200 I wouldn't have any super hard feelings, it would be half a bad hand. The feeling pressure was kind of tongue in cheek.

Let me put it another way, I usually ignore the requests but a close friend who has done a lot for me asked me if I could take $50 to vegas and guarantee to turn it into $75. I said of course I can (by not gambling with it but just paying $25 out of pocket).

fnord_too
07-29-2005, 09:33 AM
Having read the thread, I like the idea of 1/2 NL. It's a gamble, but those games are pretty soft everywhere I have played them. Maybe go.5/1 NL, one buy in, and paly for 3 hours or until you go bust. If you go bust, you only lost half.

Or you could just say "[censored] that noise, I buying you a gift." (or just giving cash.)

Or you could just "break even" after 4 hours play, they aren't going to be looking over your sholder or anything are they?

Subfallen
07-29-2005, 10:36 AM
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If they were gamblers it woulda been fun just buying into a 215 multi.

But if I won I would just end the friendship.

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You are awesome. And I'm not joking. /images/graemlins/heart.gif

DrFeelgoodRC
07-29-2005, 12:04 PM
just gamble it in 30/60 and give them whatever % of 200 it works out to and if you go down and lose their money whatever just lie say you won and give your buddy 400

JihadOnTheRiver
07-29-2005, 12:45 PM
Do you play live often? If so, they didn't say "poker", they said "gamble". Two on Black, two spins, they get 0 or 800. I see you're already done, but this is something I've done once because, as I figured it, they were asking for a significantly higher time investment for a significantly smaller return.

-Durka Durrr

gmunny
07-29-2005, 01:23 PM
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My friends are getting married and asked if I could gamble whatever money I was going to give them.

They said if I lose no wedding present.

I feel real weird about it but I figured wtf. If I lose I will just give them a present.

But I am feeling intense pressure gambling $200 at the 2-4. 30-60 is my regular game but for some reason this feels like more pressure.


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If that were to happen, I would just ignore them and give them a gift...OR.. just give them the $200 bucks and tell them their wedding gift was $100 and then doubled their money. /images/graemlins/wink.gif
G$

MagicMan08
07-29-2005, 05:06 PM
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Hmmm....yeah Justin A is getting married in a week, instead of giving him a present I lost $200 playing $33 SNGs today.

Congrats Justin, you'll get nothing and like it.

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AWESOME

TylerD
07-29-2005, 05:46 PM
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Hmmm....yeah Justin A is getting married in a week, instead of giving him a present I lost $200 playing $33 SNGs today.

Congrats Justin, you'll get nothing and like it.

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Don't Sklansky dollars count for anything these days !!!