33s - 3 early postflop hands, and ..

[Isura]

are the players always this bad? These felt like a $10.

Hand 1, my initial read was that villain was look. I'd seen him call down in a biggish pot with bottom pair. So, this is an easy call right?

Hand 2, turn and river I wussed out. I'm thinking the turn check was okay since there's not that many free cards, I'll get check/raised by a better hand, and I'll get more information on the river since I have position. But I guess I should have bet a bit on the river, since villain is saying he doesn't have a Q.

Hand 3, I think is standard. But that small turn bet looked fishy. Any reason to just call the turn and reevaluate the river?

Thanks guys.
***** Hand History for Game 2439084553 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14338145 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, July 28, 17:50:56 EDT 2005
Table Table 12185 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: harridge11 ( $785 )
Seat 2: Verbal_Kindt ( $1015 )
Seat 3: TAMAS312 ( $800 )
Seat 4: My2Muts ( $785 )
Seat 5: robster135 ( $665 )
Seat 6: witz1110 ( $800 )
Seat 7: newhizzle1 ( $785 )
Seat 8: testbatsmen1 ( $815 )
Seat 9: Ziloun ( $600 )
Seat 10: wildZer0 ( $950 )
Trny:14338145 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to testbatsmen1 [ As Qh ]
>You have options at Table 11139 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12886 Table!.
TAMAS312 folds.
My2Muts folds.
robster135 folds.
witz1110 folds.
newhizzle1 folds.
testbatsmen1 raises [45].
Ziloun calls [45].
wildZer0 folds.
harridge11 folds.
Verbal_Kindt folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, Ah, 3s ]
>You have options at Table 12886 Table!.
testbatsmen1 bets [100].
Ziloun is all-In [555]
testbatsmen1 calls [455].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ac ]
>You have options at Table 12231 Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
testbatsmen1 shows [ As, Qh ] three of a kind, aces.
Ziloun shows [ 8s, Ks ] a pair of aces.
testbatsmen1 wins 1225 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, aces.
Ziloun finished in tenth place.
Ziloun has left the table.

***** Hand History for Game 2439165865 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14338190 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, July 28, 18:07:36 EDT 2005
Table Table 11139 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 6: redman335 ( $860 )
Seat 3: testbatsmen1 ( $870 )
Seat 10: DDay1944 ( $650 )
Seat 9: Eddman529 ( $1205 )
Seat 5: wildZer0 ( $1065 )
Seat 1: Smurfs ( $2350 )
Seat 2: balky20 ( $1000 )
Trny:14338190 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to testbatsmen1 [ As Ks ]
Smurfs folds.
>You have options at Table 12185 Table!.
balky20 calls [30].
>You have options at Table 12231 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12185 Table!.
testbatsmen1 raises [120].
wildZer0 folds.
redman335 folds.
Eddman529 folds.
DDay1944 folds.
balky20 calls [90].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, Kh, Qc ]
balky20 checks.
>You have options at Table 12886 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12231 Table!.
>You have options at Table 12185 Table!.
testbatsmen1 bets [250].
balky20 calls [250].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
balky20 checks.
testbatsmen1 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
balky20 checks.
testbatsmen1 checks.
balky20 shows [ 7h, Ts ] a pair of queens.
testbatsmen1 shows [ As, Ks ] two pairs, kings and queens.
testbatsmen1 wins 785 chips from the main pot with two pairs, kings and queens.
>You have options at Table 12886 Table!.


***** Hand History for Game 2439099218 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14338145 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, July 28, 17:53:57 EDT 2005
Table Table 12185 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: harridge11 ( $815 )
Seat 2: Verbal_Kindt ( $990 )
Seat 3: TAMAS312 ( $755 )
Seat 4: My2Muts ( $770 )
Seat 5: robster135 ( $605 )
Seat 6: witz1110 ( $800 )
Seat 7: newhizzle1 ( $875 )
Seat 8: testbatsmen1 ( $1440 )
Seat 10: wildZer0 ( $950 )
Trny:14338145 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to testbatsmen1 [ As Ac ]
>You have options at Table 12231 Table!.
witz1110 calls [15].
newhizzle1 folds.
testbatsmen1 raises [60].
wildZer0 folds.
harridge11 folds.
Verbal_Kindt folds.
>You have options at Table 12886 Table!.
TAMAS312 folds.
My2Muts folds.
>You have options at Table 11139 Table!.
robster135 folds.
witz1110 calls [45].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qs, 9d, 8c ]
witz1110 checks.
testbatsmen1 bets [150].
witz1110 calls [150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
witz1110 bets [15].
testbatsmen1 is all-In [1230]
witz1110 is all-In [575]
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
witz1110 shows [ Tc, Kc ] two pairs, kings and nines.
testbatsmen1 shows [ As, Ac ] two pairs, aces and nines.
testbatsmen1 wins 640 chips from side pot #1 with two pairs, aces and nines.
testbatsmen1 wins 1625 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and nines.
witz1110 finished in ninth place.
witz1110 has left the table.

[Isura]

Any comments guys?

[bmxreed36]

Hand 1 looks ok if your read is correct on villian. Hand 2, I think you should value-bet on the river. You are only behind a Q, a set or straight and he would most likely have bet any of these on the river so just hope he calls with a weaker K or a J. Hand 3 I think is fine also, his min-bet on the turn often means that he simply wants a cheap river card which makes sense with the hand he has at the time. You charged him the most to see it and it worked out fine.

[Quercus]

Hand 1 - I call. I figure I'm behind half the time or less. Pot odds demand a call.

Hand 2 - Ouch, a big chunk of our stack is in the middle. The call could mean he's setting us up with AT or KQ or more rarely JJ. AT and KQ seem unlikely given the healthy preflop raise. JJ might play that way. He could also easily have TT and be overplaying his draw. AJ and AQ seem somewhat more likely still. AQ would be about perfect, because now he's got a nice piece of the board plus he might rationalize hitting the straight.

My fear about checking here is that if he goes all-in on the river that I'm going to be forced to call it. If I check and he doesn't bet the river, I'm almost certainly ahead and make no more money on the hand. If he has something, I'm not sure I can get away from this hand and will probably be fighting with Party's interface to try and get it to show me a new SNG to join.

So, given that I'm going to lose my stack to a better hand most of the time, I figure I might as well bet all-in to get a bad call from a drawing TT or to try to get him to call me with AQ or AJ. (I'm also not that surprised to see AK here on occasion.)

In a nutshell, I push the turn.

Hand 3 - I throw a healthy raise on the turn bet. That sort of donk bet often says "I like my hand, maybe if I bet I can scare you into giving me a cheap river." Sometimes it means "I want you to think I'm trying to scare you into giving me a cheap river, but I'm really trying to get you to raise me all-in so I can crush you." But, its more often the former than the latter because he can probably count on your betting the turn regardless and can just check raise rather than risk making 15 with his monster. I raise it now rather than the river because if he is drawing he'll pay me off now rather than then.

I really hope we get a working converter again soon. These hand histories are hella hard for me to read.