Hand Analysis (fixed converter issue)

[blahblah]

Sorry for the previous post...didn't know how to use the converter properly. Here's the hand again, correct this time:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($43)
UTG+2 ($47.65)
Hero ($61.90)
MP2 ($133.25)
MP3 ($108.10)
CO ($46.50)
Button ($52.92)
SB ($9.38)
BB ($31.15)
UTG ($49.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $1</font>, Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4.25) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $12</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($32.25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $20</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $52.25

[GrunchCan]

Aren't we supposed to fold this flop getting 2:1 with 2 people to act behind us?

[amoeba]

I think its close.

Q out is probably no good.

K out is debatable.

by close I mean the flop call and not hte turn.

[swolfe]

reads/stats on button?

[blahblah]

I had no reads or stats. I was new to the table and the players.

I figured the player had the following: Ax (I didn't rule out A9) or a set of 9s. It crossed my mind that he called with AK, in which case I was in big trouble.

This was a tough spot for me and, as always, I was able to convince myself not to play it any further:
o I figured a Q could have made a straight.
o AK and another king kills me.
o If the player had a set, another K doesn't help me.
o If the player had A9, hitting my second pair didn't help me either.

I figured I was drawing to the flush and MAYBE the straight once the 10 hit on the turn. My opponent's betting indicated to me he/she wanted me out of the pot (supporting Ax) or had a perfect read that I was on the flush draw.

With a monster like a set of 9s, why drive the original bettor out by raising to 12?

[theordinaryboy]

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This was a tough spot for me and, as always, I was able to convince myself not to play it any further

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If only this went thru your head pre-flop on utg+2's raise.

[blahblah]

theordinaryboy, do you feel I should have folded to UTG+2's raise? Wondering if others would have made the same fold. I would consider KQs with position on the raiser to be OK particularly considering it was a minraise. In other words, good hand, position on the raiser, see the flop cheap.

But perhaps my logic is precisely why I don't make money playing poker! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Anyone else have comments on this?

[btetreau]

I probably wouldn't have called PF with that hand, not with where you were sitting. Too many ways to make a pretty good hand and still be beat.

That's just my opinion, though, and that's based primarily on the fact that KQ is a hand that I've lost big with a bunch of times.