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Jonsan
07-28-2005, 09:27 AM
PokerStars Turbo $6+.50 No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 (t1100)
MP1 (t1375)
MP2 (t1420)
MP3 (t1630)
CO (t2420)
Button (t1245)
SB (t1490)
Hero (t1500)
UTG (t1320)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, MP1 calls t70, Button folds, SB folds.

Flop: (t260) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t200</font>, MP1 calls t200.

Turn: (t660) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, MP1 calls t500.

River: (t1660) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t700 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls t575 (All-In).

Final Pot: t2935

mlagoo
07-28-2005, 09:30 AM
I'd probably like to C/R allin on the flop (it will be an overbet -- I think that's ok). If it checks through, and the turn comes a heart, than at least you can get away from the hand cheaply. If not, you can lead out on the turn with a strong bet.

Flops like this when I have a big PP make me sad =/

tigerite
07-28-2005, 09:36 AM
Which is why you raise more preflop. 100 doesn't do a damn thing here.

mlagoo
07-28-2005, 09:40 AM
yeah i might make it like 150 preflop. i don't know though. i don't mind seeing a flop with a couple other people with aces.

JerseyDrake
07-28-2005, 10:05 AM
I tend to use this general formula when raising preflop with hands like this. If your typical Preflop raise in 3xBB when opening the betting, add a BB for each call in front of you.

So in this case 3xBB = T90, so with two caller infront of you raise 5xBB = T150.

tigerite
07-28-2005, 10:06 AM
Yeah, me too, sometimes 2BB for each limper.

Wes ManTooth
07-28-2005, 10:54 AM
This sounds more like just a bad beat, were do you think you need help on in this hand? At any point do you think you misplayed this?

uphigh_downlow
07-28-2005, 11:03 AM
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This sounds more like just a bad beat, were do you think you need help on in this hand? At any point do you think you misplayed this?

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What bad beat are you talking about. I dont see any. If a hand wins 80% of the time, that means it loses 20% of the times. Its your sole responsibility to minimise the losses when it does lose.

However if you plan to play big pots everytime, then just accept that it will happen every once in a while and move on.

Jonsan
07-28-2005, 11:07 AM
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This sounds more like just a bad beat, were do you think you need help on in this hand? At any point do you think you misplayed this?

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Fair enough. I raise up Aces preflop and see an all hearts board, also with a possible straight draw. What do you think about the betting on each street? After he cold calls the flop and the turn was pushing on the river foolish? After he cold calls the flop bet should I push when the turn is harmless? I posted the hand because I was having a hard time deciding how to play the hand at the time, and looking back on it I felt like I could have made better decisions.

J

Vee Quiva
07-28-2005, 12:06 PM
Maybe I'm weak tight, but I give up after the turn bet and check the river. I think the only hand that calls you on the end that you are ahead of is K /images/graemlins/heart.gifKx

yabastid
07-28-2005, 12:38 PM
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Maybe I'm weak tight, but I give up after the turn bet and check the river. I think the only hand that calls you on the end that you are ahead of is K /images/graemlins/heart.gifKx

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I don't think this is a bad beat post and I understand your question. I agree witht the above poster that if your gonna get away from this hand it's after the turn. You are definitely beat now, and it's just a metter of having the discipline to chuck your aces.

yabsatid

yid3655
07-28-2005, 01:17 PM
I would never even think about laying down AA in a $6 turbo. With blinds and action so fast you have a ideal situation vs one opponent with the best hand in Holdem. If you lose you lose, cant really see how u played the hand badly maybe a larger raise pre flop as others have suggested. The counter argument there would be, you want action and dont want to just pick up the blinds with AA

Jonsan
07-28-2005, 02:23 PM
Here is the actual end of the hand:

Hero has As Ad (one pair, aces).
MP1 has 9d 7h (straight, jack high).
Outcome: MP1 wins t2810. Hero wins t125.

I gave him a big smile and a "nh".

J

rusty090
07-28-2005, 09:29 PM
Nothing like getting called pre-flop with a 7 9 off.

I like the idea presented earlier about changing your pre-flop raise for every caller that comes before you. Although before knowing that my pre-flop raise would have been the same.

After the call of such a big bet on the flop I think I Check/Fold the turn and the river.

Quercus
07-28-2005, 09:56 PM
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Which is why you raise more preflop. 100 doesn't do a damn thing here.

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He got heads-up with a worse hand. What better result could he have hoped for?