A7o ITM - Call this river?

[AliasMrJones]

Party $55, blinds 150/300

Seat 1: BB ( $3060 )
Seat 2: SB/Hero ( $3753 )
Seat 7: Button ( $3187 )

Hero is dealt A/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif

1 fold, Hero raises to 750, BB calls.

Flop is 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif

Pot is 1,200. Hero bets 600, BB calls.

Turn is 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif

Pot is 2,400. Hero bets 425, BB calls.

River is 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Pot is 3,250. Hero checks, BB goes all-in for 1,435.

Comments on the action so far and do you call?

(Edited to fix initial raise.)

[lastchance]

Hero can't make all these bets with so much in the pot...

I probably push preflop. If I don't, I probably cont bet this flop all-in...

I dunno how you can see a turn, let alone a river here with stacks like these.

[psyduck]

what horrible play. you can pretty safely push preflop. postflop play is even worse - T425 bet into a T2000 pot on the turn???

[Jman28]

You have something wrong here I think. With blinds at 150/300, you can't raise to 450.

I assume blinds are 75/150 which takes away the push preflop as a good option.

[AliasMrJones]

But what about the river. Do you call the all-in?

[lastchance]

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But what about the river. Do you call the all-in?

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You know this question bites. There's no way that we know what to do here, because none of us actually get into this spot.

[AliasMrJones]

Sorry, initial raise was 450 more, not 450 total. I edited the initial post.

[AliasMrJones]

OK, if nobody want to play hero...any thoughts as to what BB has?

[AliasMrJones]

I posted this wanting to see how others would perceive my play from the perspective of my opponent, but unfortunately, nobody would even talk about the hand because "Hero" played it so badly.

I wasn't actually "Hero" in the above hand, I was BB. So -- any comments on my play in the hand, guesses as to what I have and whether "Hero" should call or fold? I'll post my hand later.

[Vee Quiva]

since u called the whole way down, I'm assuming you had something good like a med to high pocket pair.

[Matt R.]

I'm guessing you probably had trash and thought you could steal the pot from villain on the river after his weak flop/turn bets. I think this is a perfectly legitimate play if villain is capable of folding. My other guesses would be 2 clubs or a medium/low pocket pair. I'm going with trash though since I think you may have semi-bluffed with clubs on the weak flop bet or pushed the turn with a pair (or at least checked the river since you probably aren't getting called by a worse hand).

[yabastid]

First thing I thought was villian (you) had a busted flush draw and was trying to steal the pot- I was thinking KcQc/KcJc. I'd be interested to know what happened here.

yabastid

[AliasMrJones]

I had J/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/club.gif. I thought I had enough implied odds to call the flop bet with the flush draw getting 3-1 immediate. I was going to give it up on the turn, but he bet so small I thought I had to call. When I missed the river, being in the big blind I thought there was a decent chance that I hit some piece of the board and if he had nothing as his decreasing bets and then check seemed to indicate, he'd have a hard time calling the bet on the river.

He thought for almost his entire time limit and then called and I thought he surely had a PP or 2 broadway including a T. Seeing his hand, I couldn't believe that he called the river bet. So -- was my play completely stupid? Is there any hope he lays down here?

[Matt R.]

No, I think it works a lot of the time, especially since he can't even beat most other ace-high hands. However, I'd probably semi-bluff push the flop or at least push the turn after he shows weakness. I think you'll take it down a lot more often if you do either of these. Your river bet after he checks looks a lot more like you're stealing after he shows weakness by finally not betting. He'd have a lot more trouble reading you for a non-pair hand if you raised him earlier.

[AliasMrJones]

I considered pushing earlier, and looking back I wondered why I didn't push the turn.

[11t]

Okay, did you notice how your bets decreased on every street? What exactly are you doing?

I push preflop. However I would fold the river, I assume BB has SOME pair or something. You could be outkicked as well.

[11t]

I might be crazy but I don't call raises preflop with ~10xbb and j8s.