I really wanted to raise, fold, and call all at the same time.

[baronzeus]

This guy is as LPP as it gets. He hasn't bet since I sat down at the table. Makes me think I'm beat here, I can't imagine what's beating me, so I want to raise.

His bet feels like a weak A, and I'm fairly sure he won't 3bet me if he doesn't have the nut flush. Is it OK to raise?

Note: I don't know how he'd play a flush here.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero ???.

Final Pot: 9.16 BB

[W. Deranged]

... um.... call....

This is weird. Folding sucks here. I doubt you'll be ahead 55% of the time you raise and are called. You're not likely to get reraised, but villain is passive and might not lead here all that often. This will be something weird/weak by villain often enough to call, but I can't find a raise here.

[JrJordan]

I'd raise it. Loose passive isn't raising a 7 very often from MP, so you can disocunt the straight. Your thinking makes sense that he most likely has an A that he was going to call down, but decided to bet the river when a scare card came because he doesn't think a higher A will raise (though I'm sure I'm giving him too much credit. I'd raise and be willing to fold to a 3-bet from this type of player.

[etizzle]

lots of the weak As are 2 pairs or str8s.

I think you are beat here &gt;50% of the time, just call it.

[baronzeus]

later we played this hand. He is MP If you had this read, would that change anything?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (11.66 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP calls.

Final Pot: 13.66 BB

Results below:
MP has Ks Qs (one pair, kings).
Hero has 9d 9c (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.66 BB.

[Alobar]

I dont see any point in raising. When a giant LPP donks a river like this, its cuz he has the straight, the flush, or total crap.

[baronzeus]

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I dont see any point in raising. When a giant LPP donks a river like this, its cuz he has the straight, the flush, or total crap.

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When I played this hand I was talking to my friend and didn't even notice the 4 straight. I'm probably good around 20% of the time here in retrospect so its probably a good call but a bad raise.