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baronzeus
07-26-2005, 08:38 PM
Villain has done nothing note worthy, cept sucking out on my 77 on the turn with QJ. He didn't raise when he hit his Q on the turn.

He's pretty passive and loose.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.16 BB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ????

ISF
07-26-2005, 08:42 PM
I cant see how this is a value bet you split with any aces and doubt king high calls, and some weak pair 45 type of hand could have easily got scared when you called the turn. The reason this might be a bet is to drive out an ace you would split with, but I doubt that happens very often.

NLSoldier
07-26-2005, 08:52 PM
For the first time is as long as I can remember Im gonna say dont value bet it.

felson
07-26-2005, 08:54 PM
Check it. An ace is not folding, nor are better hands, and kings don't call enough.

baronzeus
07-27-2005, 01:27 PM
First of all, this guy's a moron, I've been pretty aggressive at the table so far.

I thought about value betting here until my timer nearly ran out, since I knew he'd call, but I decided against it, like a pansy.

He turned over Q9o and my hand is good. He wins for the RBOTD (random bullshit of the day). The fact that he bluff raised me on the turn after being so passive the whole time proves that even fish try stupid [censored] if they hate you.

Alobar
07-27-2005, 01:29 PM
no, dont bet this

Kimpan
07-27-2005, 02:52 PM
depending ong how passive this opponent is, I think I can find a fold on turn..
anyone else?

sammy_g
07-27-2005, 02:54 PM
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depending ong how passive this opponent is, I think I can find a fold on turn..
anyone else?

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did you notice the straight draw?

baronzeus
07-27-2005, 02:55 PM
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depending ong how passive this opponent is, I think I can find a fold on turn..
anyone else?

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I'm getting 6:1 with somewhere between 4 and 10 outs here if I'm behind.

ghostface
07-27-2005, 02:57 PM
This is an easy call to his bet, if he does so, right?

baronzeus
07-27-2005, 02:59 PM
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This is an easy call to his bet, if he does so, right?

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I don't think it's easy, but since I only have to be good some low % of the time here, I think it's fine.

sammy_g
07-27-2005, 02:59 PM
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This is an easy call to his bet, if he does so, right?

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On the river? I think so.

sammy_g
07-27-2005, 03:01 PM
Even if you get called by some worse hands, I think you're splitting or are behind when you're called more often than not. (And of course you're not making another ace fold.)

I check the river.