Did I raise to much PF with queens?

[skierdude1000]

[STT] $3 NL 3987735-4 Holdem No Limit 20/40
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Hand Start.
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 1 : dougdirtyg has $4,020
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 2 : Dougie123 has $1,960
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 3 : Diese has $2,000
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 4 : Cal Bear has $1,480
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 5 : mattriggy has $1,960
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 6 : blade44 has $1,960
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 7 : onetouch has $1,940
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 8 : originalDave has $2,680
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : dougdirtyg is the dealer.
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Dougie123 posted small blind.
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Diese posted big blind.
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Game [4] started with 8 players.
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Jul 26 17:17:09] : Seat 3 : Diese has Qc Qd
[Jul 26 17:17:14] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 5 min.
[Jul 26 17:17:16] : Cal Bear folded.
[Jul 26 17:17:18] : mattriggy called 40
[Jul 26 17:17:19] : blade44 called 40
[Jul 26 17:17:22] : onetouch called 40 and raised 80
[Jul 26 17:17:26] : originalDave folded.
[Jul 26 17:17:31] : dougdirtyg called 120
[Jul 26 17:17:33] : Dougie123 called 100
[Jul 26 17:17:34] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 5 min.
[Jul 26 17:17:39] : Diese called 80 and raised 400
[Jul 26 17:17:43] : mattriggy folded.
[Jul 26 17:17:45] : blade44 called 480
[Jul 26 17:17:49] : onetouch called 400
[Jul 26 17:17:51] : dougdirtyg called 400
[Jul 26 17:17:51] : Dougie123 folded.
[Jul 26 17:17:52] : Dealing flop.
[Jul 26 17:17:52] : Board cards [Kc 4c 2c]
[Jul 26 17:17:54] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 4 min.
[Jul 26 17:17:57] : Diese checked.
[Jul 26 17:18:04] : blade44 bet 320
[Jul 26 17:18:07] : onetouch called 320 and raised 320
[Jul 26 17:18:08] : dougdirtyg folded.
[Jul 26 17:18:09] : Diese folded.
[Jul 26 17:18:11] : blade44 called 320 and raised 800 and is All-in
[Jul 26 17:18:13] : onetouch called 780 and is All-in
[Jul 26 17:18:13] : Showdown!
[Jul 26 17:18:14] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 4 min.
[Jul 26 17:18:15] : Seat 6 : blade44 has Jc 8c
[Jul 26 17:18:15] : Seat 7 : onetouch has Ac 5c
[Jul 26 17:18:21] : Board cards [Kc 4c 2c Jh 8d]
[Jul 26 17:18:21] : Seat 6 : blade44 has Jc 8c
[Jul 26 17:18:21] : blade44 has Flush KJ842
[Jul 26 17:18:21] : Seat 7 : onetouch has Ac 5c
[Jul 26 17:18:21] : onetouch has Flush AK542
[Jul 26 17:18:21] : onetouch wins 5,080 with Flush AK542 (Ace kicker)


Ok well I made it like 13x to go preflop with QQ. Then I check the flop because I know I'm beat and wisely lay it down. Should I raise even more here? push? or should I go less. I mean I had 3 callers... thoughts?

[jeffraider]

Maybe make it 300-350, but with the action in front of you it's not bad at all really. Especially at the $ level you're playing at, nothing wrong with cranking them really hard preflop, I think. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Nice fold on the flop, too. It sucks after you invest 1/4 of your stack preflop, but that flop sucks plain and simple so F it.

[Scuba Chuck]

Can't read your HH, but standard raising procedures for a hand like this might be 3xBB plus 1BB for every limper already in the pot. If there has already been a raise, I think you need to consider pot odds before making your raise.

For example: (blinds 15/30) Two limpers, and a MP raises to 90. Folded to you, and you make it 150. MP is getting (blinds + 2 limpers + 90 + 150) 5.75:1 to call your raise. It's pretty much a no brainer for him. Furthermore, the limpers are getting 2.875:1 to call. In a hand like this, you want to be sure you're isolated postflop, so you want to make sure minimally, the limpers are getting close to 2:1 on their call. I'd raise to about 230-250 here.

This solution raises a dilemma. On Party, this represents a significant portion of your stack, so in this case. PUSH.