Ugly River Action. Puke then call cap? [Archive]

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hobbsmann

07-25-2005, 11:24 PM

BB is a donk and I followed him to this game and Button seems like your typical multi-tabling TAG. My question on this hand has to do with the river and what to do when it is capped back to me. The pot is freaking huge but am I still good enough times to make this a profitable call especially since the button doesn't seem to be slowing down? Would calling the river donk bet by BB be a better line? Also, comments on all streets appriciated.

Stats:
Button: 23/14/3.5 through ~100 hands
BB: 56/19/1.6 through ~400 hands

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, Hero calls, CO raises, Button 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.40 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets, BB calls, Hero raises, CO folds, Button 3-bets, BB calls, Hero caps, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (12.70 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB calls.

River: (15.70 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, BB caps

timprov

07-25-2005, 11:33 PM

They can't both have JJ. I'm not sure what else you're scared of, after the turn action. I think you have the best hand here way too often to fold.

poker-penguin

07-26-2005, 01:14 AM

Folding would suck. You've got a very good hand. I think / hope one of them has trips and the other made the straight. Basically you're not beat anywhere near enough times out of ten to fold this.

Not sure about the preflop call - are you looking for multiway action or what? Flop and turn pretty much play themselves. I think.

hobbsmann

07-26-2005, 01:48 AM

As far as the preflop call goes I felt like there was enough money in the pot already and enough people that liked their hands that I could make up bets fairly easily the times I flop a set.

Poldi

07-26-2005, 06:48 AM

Your hand is too good to fold especially after the turn action.

Tropex

07-26-2005, 08:25 AM

Hmmn seems to me you're probably against a straight (and/or) trips, I'd call down. Then again, I suck (just feel I have to mention it so that nobody ends up losing money cuz of me (except the ones i play), maybe i'll put it to my sig).

I've seen a lot of plays like this in PS 0.5/1 (which is probably worse level than this but anyway). They could be playing hands like AT, AQ, T9. Of course there's always possibility of TT, KK, JJ or sumthin' cross your fingers and hope it's not the case ;P

spydog

07-26-2005, 10:08 AM

You are toast when a TAG 3-bets you on this river.

He will put you on a flush draw, 2-pair, or a set after your flop action. On the turn he knows you are holding a flush at the very worst, but more likely a boat. His 3-bet means he can beat a flush. Since you have the worst boat possible you cannot possibly be ahead. FOLD.

meow_meow

07-26-2005, 01:59 PM

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They can't both have JJ. I'm not sure what else you're scared of, after the turn action.

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How do JT, KT, TT and KK strike you. Probably button has the pocket pair (TT definetly plays this way). BB might have something like KT or JT, or maybe the flush or straight.

That said, I don't think I have the discipline to fold here.