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JerseyTom

07-25-2005, 09:19 PM

This one had me thinking. I'm not quite sure what I think of my play here..

Comments welcome on all streets.

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Preflop: JerseyTom is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, JerseyTom completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
JerseyTom bets, BB raises, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, JerseyTom calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
JerseyTom bets, BB raises, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls, JerseyTom folds...

aK13

07-25-2005, 09:46 PM

I'd 3bet the flop.

I think the fold is ok assuming a reasonable, thinking opponent (but is this really the case?).

irishpint

07-25-2005, 10:56 PM

3bet the flop and lead the turn (fold the turn UI if capped on flop, duh)

07-25-2005, 11:22 PM

AA/KK/QQ/AJ would raise Preflop…so JJ with High kicker is good holdings

So if you are behind your behind to little trips. BB could be betting anything (Ax, Flush). However, the raise on the flop does raise some concern
I’d check/Call turn…check/Call River

hemstock

07-25-2005, 11:32 PM

Before I read SSH I would make a good laydown.
Now that I have read it. I would at least call this down.

Pov

07-25-2005, 11:41 PM

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AA/KK/QQ/AJ would raise Preflop…so JJ with High kicker is good holdings

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Many players will not raise AJ from the big blind. They also wouldn't raise 22, 44, J2, J4 or 42.

That said I like our hand on the flop as well and would likely 3-bet and lead the turn if not capped. If I still got raised on the turn I would feel pretty sure I was behind, but depending upon how many of those other players stuck around and for how long I would probably have to at least see the river.

Two_Slick

07-25-2005, 11:55 PM

I smell QJ... either way the pot isn't that big and I'm putting him on at least 2 pair at this point (unless he is super aggressive). It's a fold for me.

Mooski

07-26-2005, 08:36 AM

I'm more worried why MP3 has called 2 bets on the flop and turn.

07-26-2005, 09:35 PM

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However, the raise on the flop does raise some concern I’d check/Call turn…check/Call River

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I'm calling it down non raised to the end

Kumubou

07-26-2005, 09:41 PM

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I'm more worried why MP3 has called 2 bets on the flop and turn.

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Because MP3 loves calling? If you have a read that he is a solid player and then is suddenly calling two cold on the turn on a drawish board, you may want to take note of that. If they are donks? Uh... they're donks, that is what they do.

I would 3-bet the flop, and then with the turn action I would call the turn raise looking to re-suckout and just call one back on the river UI. If he caps the flop you can probably dump it on the turn.

-K