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ansky451

07-24-2005, 11:48 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Villain is sort of unknown, a bit passive but nothing crazy. I probably have a bit of a loose image.

SB ($429.80)
BB ($223.35)
UTG ($381.10)
Hero ($413.20)
CO ($245.30)
Button ($187.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Button calls $12, SB calls $10, 1 fold.

Flop: ($40) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32, Button folds, SB calls $32.

Turn: ($104) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $72, SB raises to $144, Hero calls $72.

River: ($392) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $241.8 (All-In), Hero calls $225.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $859
There are more Ax hands that im beating than I'm losing to to so I dont think a call is out of line here right?
Thoughts?

creedofhubris

07-25-2005, 12:11 AM

The turn minraise is a sign of great power online, but it's also a sign of random trips a lot of the time. If this board were not paired you'd certainly be dead. As it is, you may have a call depending on your opponent, but I think it's a fold.

The time to fold is the turn if you're gonna do it.

man

07-25-2005, 12:17 AM

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Villain is a bit passive but nothing crazy.

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this makes me want to fold the river. I mean I can't think of too many hands he beats you with given his preflop action, but his postflop action makes me scared. do you really think he plays like this with A9? wouldn't he send out one of those where-am-I-at raises on the flop? it really seems like he's beasting you with AJ, AQ, AK here.. at the very least he's convinced that he's beasting you.. preflop it doesn't make sense I know but postflop is right on.

btw, is ATo normally PFR-able here? I wouldn't even play this in MP.. but I don't spend enough time at the 6-max tables, so I don't know.

actually.. I just realized you're splitting any ace less than jack. I'm an idiot. but um.. I guess the previous points apply.. somehow.. somewhere..

technologic

07-25-2005, 01:54 AM

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actually.. I just realized you're splitting any ace less than jack.

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THATWACOKID

07-25-2005, 03:56 AM

With a bad kicker I like to check behind on the turn in situations like this. Someone let me know if that is bad.

BobboFitos

07-25-2005, 04:31 AM

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With a bad kicker I like to check behind on the turn in situations like this. Someone let me know if that is bad.

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normally thats good, but in 6max when you suspect a worse ace is in (and yours is still playing) i like to bet. I'd have them read for trips worse kicker, and want to extract max value. Here ten is right on the line, but even if you suspect he's only calling pf with suited ace ten and down, and 3 combos of AJ, if he reraises AK, there are 3 Q, 2 J, 1 4, then 2,3,5,6,7,8,9. so technically you're still 7:6 fav and thats conservative.

but as said, right on the line.

fimbulwinter

07-25-2005, 05:00 AM

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Villain is sort of unknown, a bit passive but nothing crazy. I probably have a bit of a loose image.

SB ($429.80)
BB ($223.35)
UTG ($381.10)
Hero ($413.20)
CO ($245.30)
Button ($187.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Button calls $12, SB calls $10, 1 fold.

Flop: ($40) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32, Button folds, SB calls $32.

Turn: ($104) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $72, SB raises to $144, Hero calls $72.

River: ($392) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets $241.8 (All-In), Hero calls $225.20 (All-In).

Final Pot: $859
There are more Ax hands that im beating than I'm losing to to so I dont think a call is out of line here right?
Thoughts?

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check the turn then call the river. what hand are you representing? what hand worse than yours will call a PSB on the turn?

fim