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DavidC
07-24-2005, 11:09 PM
I'm curious about the PF call, but REALLY curious about the turn bet.

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Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $2. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, UTG folds.

River: (9.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

mantasm
07-24-2005, 11:19 PM
Preflop call is fine with the two posters in there, the turn bet is good with the pair and the flush draw. You have 14 outs to two pair or better, and you're ahead some of the time. I can't see doing anything differently.

brettbrettr
07-24-2005, 11:51 PM
I don't know why you're so curious about the turn: you're in as/good/better shape than you were on the flop.

I'm not sure I play this this ealry though, pre-flop.

dantheman_05
07-25-2005, 12:14 AM
looks good 2 me

baronzeus
07-25-2005, 12:54 AM
It seems your turn bet is -EV. Your 6 probably isn't good here, so essentially you need to improve your hand, and you have 14/46 ~= 1/3.25 For the bet to be +EV, you need 3 callers, and you just can't expect that here. This is, of course, unless you're doing it for FE.

I don't know, I just don't like betting into large fields with flush draws on the turn (with only one chance to improve) unless I can be sure at least 3 people will call if I have a pair and 4 people will call if I don't. Also, a lot of times when you have a ton of overcallers, someone is on a higher flush draw.


There's also the chance of getting raised here. Getting raised when you are betting a draw will a) knock out most of the field and b) make you put in 2 for 2 or 2 for 4, which is -EV.

I think so, at least.

brettbrettr
07-25-2005, 08:18 AM
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I don't know why you're so curious about the turn: you're in as/good/better shape than you were on the flop.

I'm not sure I play this this ealry though, pre-flop.

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Ugh, ignore my drunk post. I don't like having to pay 2 here. I c-c the turn.