07-24-2005, 08:29 PM
I'm a new poster and signed up because lately I find myself in these situations and hate my line after. I find I'm being too passive or too aggressive at the wrong times. I'm not sure if it matters, but the limits I play are 5/10 - 10/20 (I figured this post was best suited for mid/high)in full ring games 7+ players. (Presume I have no reads on these players)
Anyway the situations are as follows:
1. I'm in position and cap or 3-bet and am called by 2 other players preflop with either K/K or Q/Q. The flop comes A/x/x rainbow and a drawless board. It's bet, raised and now it's 2 to me. I... ?
2. I'm in position with K/K or Q/Q the same preflop 3 bet or cap happens. Flop comes A/x/x rainbow and a drawless board. It's checked to me, I bet, one fold and one call. Turn is a blank and I'm check raised. I.... ?
As far as what I have been doing I have been laying down in the first situation 100% of the time without a read. In the second situation if I have a read I'm calling down, but I'm folding a lot of the time without one. For the second situation I hate checking the turn and calling down there, but I also hate calling the extra BB from the C/R. Should I consider checking the flop at least some of the time and calling down the turn and river. I was thinking I'll be having worse hands betting into me for 1 BB on the turn and 1 on the river or at least check calling the river(losing the 1/2 BB flop bet) that may have folded for my turn bet. I also save the 1/2 BB if im behind to an ace and save 1.5 BB if I'm check raised by an ace.
Tell me if my thinking just sucks. These situations are frustrating me because I feel I'm paying out/losing bets way too much in a situation where Im way ahead or way behind.
Anyway the situations are as follows:
1. I'm in position and cap or 3-bet and am called by 2 other players preflop with either K/K or Q/Q. The flop comes A/x/x rainbow and a drawless board. It's bet, raised and now it's 2 to me. I... ?
2. I'm in position with K/K or Q/Q the same preflop 3 bet or cap happens. Flop comes A/x/x rainbow and a drawless board. It's checked to me, I bet, one fold and one call. Turn is a blank and I'm check raised. I.... ?
As far as what I have been doing I have been laying down in the first situation 100% of the time without a read. In the second situation if I have a read I'm calling down, but I'm folding a lot of the time without one. For the second situation I hate checking the turn and calling down there, but I also hate calling the extra BB from the C/R. Should I consider checking the flop at least some of the time and calling down the turn and river. I was thinking I'll be having worse hands betting into me for 1 BB on the turn and 1 on the river or at least check calling the river(losing the 1/2 BB flop bet) that may have folded for my turn bet. I also save the 1/2 BB if im behind to an ace and save 1.5 BB if I'm check raised by an ace.
Tell me if my thinking just sucks. These situations are frustrating me because I feel I'm paying out/losing bets way too much in a situation where Im way ahead or way behind.