PDA

View Full Version : $2/$5 The 2 Pair Illusion


BuBu_
07-23-2005, 05:27 PM
$2/$5 6 MAX (6 Handed)

Seat 2: Villian ($423.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($477 in chips)

Villian in hand is new to table and not played against him before. No reads as yet.

Dealt to Hero K /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif

PREFLOP:
Villian limps, Hero raises to $20, BB calls, Villian calls.

FLOP ($62) 3players:
Q/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero bets $40, Villian calls $40

TURN ($142):
K/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Villian checks, Hero bets $115, Villian raises to $363.50 (all-in), Hero calls $248.50

RESULTS in white below
<font color="white">
Villian shows down 99 to take down pot.
</font>

All comments appreciated.
I felt like I should be folding, because I am behind to JT, 99 and 33 but I have a sort of general rule to not fold top 2 pair when I am getting better than 2-1 heads up. Is 2pair just an illusion?

amoeba
07-23-2005, 05:30 PM
in these situations,I don't think the K helped you and I don't think he check pushes with AQ.

so you have to ask yourself whether he will do this with a draw.

if the answer is no, then fold.

Alex/Mugaaz
07-23-2005, 09:16 PM
I realized after a long time that 2pair is basically about as good as Top Pair - better than ace kicker.

sully4321
07-24-2005, 02:30 AM
[ QUOTE ]
$2/$5 6 MAX (6 Handed)

Seat 2: Villian ($423.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($477 in chips)

Villian in hand is new to table and not played against him before. No reads as yet.

Dealt to Hero K /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif

PREFLOP:
Villian limps, Hero raises to $20, BB calls, Villian calls.

FLOP ($62) 3players:
Q/images/graemlins/club.gif 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero bets $40, Villian calls $40

TURN ($142):
K/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Villian checks, Hero bets $115, Villian raises to $363.50 (all-in), Hero calls $248.50

RESULTS in white below
<font color="white">
Villian shows down 99 to take down pot.
</font>

All comments appreciated.
I felt like I should be folding, because I am behind to JT, 99 and 33 but I have a sort of general rule to not fold top 2 pair when I am getting better than 2-1 heads up. Is 2pair just an illusion?

[/ QUOTE ]

let's see... limp-call PF... call flop... check-push river. set maybe? i'm thinking 3s or 9s. results?

forget the "results" part... just saw 'em

BuBu_
07-24-2005, 12:46 PM
Yes, I think I still have too much willingness to call from my previous experience on the $1 table where this raise could easily be lower 2pair or just top pair. But this is not the case on the $5 table.