07-23-2005, 01:19 PM
Hi there. I'm a tight and aggressive player. I've played since February, and a lot, but i'm still rather inexperienced.
Here's a frequently occuring situation for me and i'd like some input on if my reasoning and play is correct.
Lets say i have A/images/graemlins/spade.gifA/images/graemlins/diamond.gif in early position (god you gotta hate early position in NL). I raise 4xBB and a typically weak player calls from late. He's the kind that sees a lot of flops and doesn't raise you on the flop/turn/river with top pair or anything worse than two pair when there's a preflop raise (which goes for like 60% of the players on my tables). Rather loose passive in other words.
The board comes:
4/images/graemlins/spade.gifQ/images/graemlins/heart.gif8/images/graemlins/heart.gif
I bet out anything from half the pot to the full size of the pot. I don't have a pattern to this, but i believe most of the time i bet 3 or 4 if the pot is 6 dollars or 2-4 dollars if the pot is 4. Is there a standard on how much i should bet (lol)?
The guy calls my 4 dollar bet and the pot is now 14 dollars. I automatically put him on top pair or a draw. Since he doesn't raise with top pair he could have either.
Now of course another /images/graemlins/heart.gif (any low heart) drops (they drop more than mathematically possible for me) completing a potential flush.
But, since flushes are rather rare, i bet out again, for two reasons: 1. to make him pay me off all the way with his top pair 2. to make him pay for a flushdraw (he could be holding a /images/graemlins/heart.gif in his hand) 3. to get information. 4. To prevent him from bluffing big. If he raises me here, and it's a very big raise, i typically fold my aces, kings or queens or whatever overpair i have. Correct reasoning?
Now, lets make the board a little more dangerous.
Lets make it
4/images/graemlins/spade.gifQ/images/graemlins/heart.gifT/images/graemlins/heart.gif
Wow this is dangerous. Although a hand like QJ or KQ is the most likely in this scenario, he might hold QT for two pair or a hand like J9, KJ, and any flush draw.
If the "blank" heart drops, i still bet out. But what do i do if the K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif or 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif drops?
This could give him the straight, two pair, flush, there's now a whole lot of cards which might beat your aces.
Do you still bet out here to prevent him from bluffing and to get that potential raise which justifies a fold from you?
I find that i'm a little perplexed as to what to do in these situations. Sometimes i bet out. Sometimes i check-fold, sometimes i check-call. Depends on the size of his bet. It really sucks to check-call and then get a bet on the river for more than half my stack. It just makes me feel lost in the hand and when he shows his two-pair, flush, straight, or whatever, i feel like a fish.
Discuss.
Here's a frequently occuring situation for me and i'd like some input on if my reasoning and play is correct.
Lets say i have A/images/graemlins/spade.gifA/images/graemlins/diamond.gif in early position (god you gotta hate early position in NL). I raise 4xBB and a typically weak player calls from late. He's the kind that sees a lot of flops and doesn't raise you on the flop/turn/river with top pair or anything worse than two pair when there's a preflop raise (which goes for like 60% of the players on my tables). Rather loose passive in other words.
The board comes:
4/images/graemlins/spade.gifQ/images/graemlins/heart.gif8/images/graemlins/heart.gif
I bet out anything from half the pot to the full size of the pot. I don't have a pattern to this, but i believe most of the time i bet 3 or 4 if the pot is 6 dollars or 2-4 dollars if the pot is 4. Is there a standard on how much i should bet (lol)?
The guy calls my 4 dollar bet and the pot is now 14 dollars. I automatically put him on top pair or a draw. Since he doesn't raise with top pair he could have either.
Now of course another /images/graemlins/heart.gif (any low heart) drops (they drop more than mathematically possible for me) completing a potential flush.
But, since flushes are rather rare, i bet out again, for two reasons: 1. to make him pay me off all the way with his top pair 2. to make him pay for a flushdraw (he could be holding a /images/graemlins/heart.gif in his hand) 3. to get information. 4. To prevent him from bluffing big. If he raises me here, and it's a very big raise, i typically fold my aces, kings or queens or whatever overpair i have. Correct reasoning?
Now, lets make the board a little more dangerous.
Lets make it
4/images/graemlins/spade.gifQ/images/graemlins/heart.gifT/images/graemlins/heart.gif
Wow this is dangerous. Although a hand like QJ or KQ is the most likely in this scenario, he might hold QT for two pair or a hand like J9, KJ, and any flush draw.
If the "blank" heart drops, i still bet out. But what do i do if the K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif or 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif drops?
This could give him the straight, two pair, flush, there's now a whole lot of cards which might beat your aces.
Do you still bet out here to prevent him from bluffing and to get that potential raise which justifies a fold from you?
I find that i'm a little perplexed as to what to do in these situations. Sometimes i bet out. Sometimes i check-fold, sometimes i check-call. Depends on the size of his bet. It really sucks to check-call and then get a bet on the river for more than half my stack. It just makes me feel lost in the hand and when he shows his two-pair, flush, straight, or whatever, i feel like a fish.
Discuss.