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Blackjack
07-23-2005, 02:44 AM
Party Poker (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Villain UTG calls, 2 other callers, Hero checks.

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero Bets 3$, Villain calls $3 MP folds, SB folds.

Turn: T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero bets $10, UTG raises to 128.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot:

Ughh.. this hand is killing me. On first glance, it seems like I'm playing with scared money. But on closer examination, I'm drawing to 2 outs against an Ace high flush, 1 out against a King high flush draw...

If he has a boat with JT or T9, I only have 3 outs to win. Here's the breakdown that I did.

99 - 2 sf outs, 6 boat outs, 1 quad out, (9 outs)
JT - 2 sf outs, 3 queen outs (5 outs)
JJ - 2 sf outs, 1 quad out (3 outs)
KhQo - 1 sf out, 9 boat outs, 1 quad oad (11 outs)
AhX - I'm way ahead.. he only has 6 outs to win
AhAd - Unlikely since he limped only has 8 outs to win
KhJd - I'm ahead but he has 9 outs to win

This was only the villains 5th hand at the table.

Blackjack
07-23-2005, 02:45 AM
Fixed the above post flop action

Blackjack
07-23-2005, 02:46 AM
AhQx is also a possibility.

There, I'm ahead a good amount. He needs a non heart king or 6 non sf combo heads to be good here.. a offsuit 9 chops the pot.

3 outs to tie
9 outs to win

stu-unger
07-23-2005, 02:55 AM
this is a gross spot to be in, u have a so-so made hand and outs to beat anything possible. with that said i think u have to find a fold, which u already know. im not sure what u r looking for u played the hand perfect and ran into a likely better hand that u could have beat if he didnt push. it would be a bit easier if he didnt just sit down and u had a read. whatever NH

EMcWilliams
07-23-2005, 11:47 AM
I think Id have to call there in a cash game. He wouldn't push with the high flush, and didnt want to see another heart IMO. I could see mid SC hearts pushing,but not something that you a. dont already have beat b. have the outs to beat.

07-23-2005, 11:58 AM
i don't know if i like this all that much. it sounds to me like he has AhJx (or even AJ with no h) and is mad that he didn't raise the flop. I also think with a limped JJ and flopped top set he would raise the flop on this draw heavy board. the hand im worried about is AhXh, and even then would he really limp UTG with Ah2-8h or Kh? there's also a slight possibilty of 7h8h, but there's no way he wouldn't call here and try to trap the river. i really think i'm calling here, i think a set or two pair would've had to raise the flop because of the draw heavy board, and against an A or K high flush you still have outs. i read this as AJ really annoyed that he didn't raise the flop and let you catch up with second pair.