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Jules22
07-23-2005, 01:20 AM
i've known a lot of substance riddled fellows and i was trying to decide which of my friends was the worst. most of mine have problems doing large amounts of (weed, alcohol, coke, all of the above) during inopportune times like work or on the freeway. i cant decide which of mine is the worse, but i thought it might make a good topic for discussion, along with some good stories. hopefully this will generate some good stories and such

DarkForceRising
07-23-2005, 01:51 AM
I know a guy who angrily dropped (threw to the ground, actually) a kid while babysitting him. I did not find out the truth of the matter until several years later.

His story was that it was an accident. Several of us wrote eloquent letters to the court describing him as a gentle person who would never do such a thing. In fact, in my letter, I related a story about how he once felt so bad about a dead cat in the road he scooped up the carcass and gave it a "proper burial".

Fastforward a few years and the truth was finally revealed. In a drunken stuper one night his eyes turned psychotic as he related how "the little fucker wouldn't stop crying- plus he had these long, dirty nails that he kept scratching me with". He then proceeded to lose it- throwing the kid to the ground causing him permanant brain damage and loss of eyesight.

The spousal abuse and general predatory sleazyness exemplified by this outwardly appearing "nice guy" are ancillary offenses compared the previously outlined one.

Currently, he is being severely jerked around by a girlfriend and is suffering a deep depression. Hopefully, for societies sake, he will off himself before he gets her.

BTW, he got 6 months work release for his crime- avoiding the million dollar plus civil suit in bankruptcy court (after maxing out his credit cards, naturally).

The kid and his parents got a life sentence.

Sponger15SB
07-23-2005, 02:07 AM
Unless someone used to be friends with Hilter, I think you win.

lastsamurai
07-23-2005, 02:14 AM
I was having a great day until i read that post...just a downer!

07-23-2005, 02:17 AM
Not so much a friend as no one could stand him ever, but he was one of those people who just attaches themselves to you and makes themselves pervasive and omnipresent. He was a rich kid who rebelled against his parents by being a hippy, working for enviromental agencies and studying comparative religions in university. He used to lecture everyone he knew about how immature they were, and how they should get jobs and support themselves and marry their girlfriends/boyfriends and start families and stop gambling and drinking and doing drugs and become productive members of society.

Meanwhile, his parents are footing all his bills, as his income from canvassing for various enviromental groups is near zero. And he's cheating on his fiance with some dirty hippy girl from one of the enviromental agencies. He manages to get both pregnant and prevents his fiance from getting an arbortion as it'd be murder but insists his piece on the side gets an arbortion. He's using meth and paying for it by selling it to fratboys at school. Oh, and by sleeping with his dealer (this creepy dominican dude) who gives him hep-C and godknowswhatelse. Which he of course passes along to the girls. After his fiance breaks up with him (after testing positive for hep-C) he empties her bank accounts and disappears to australia.

DarkForceRising
07-23-2005, 02:21 AM
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I was having a great day until i read that post...just a downer!

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Sorry, man. In retrospect, I should have waited until Monday to share that.

A_C_Slater
07-23-2005, 02:37 AM
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Unless someone used to be friends with Hilter, I think you win.

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His only boyhood friend, August Kubizek, recalled Hitler as a shy, reticent young man, yet he was able to burst into hysterical fits of anger towards those who disagreed with him. The two became inseparable during these early years and Kubizek turned out to be a patient listener.

He was a good audience for Hitler, who often rambled for hours about his hopes and dreams. Sometimes Hitler even gave speeches complete with wild hand gestures to his audience of one. Hitler would only tolerate approval from his friend and could not stand to be corrected, a personality trait he had shown in high school and as a younger boy as well.

Kubizek later recalled his friend this way:

"There he stood, this pallid, skinny youth, with the first dark brown showing on his upper lip, in his shabby pepper-and-salt suit, threadbare at the elbows and collar, with his eyes glued to some architectural detail, analyzing the style, criticizing or praising the work, disapproving of the material - all this with such thoughtfulness and such expert knowledge as though he were the builder and would have to pay for every shortcoming out of his own pocket."

Then one day in 1905 the pair went to see a performance of Wagner's Rienzi at the Linz Memorial Theater. This became a decisive event for the teenaged Hitler, as he was to refer to it after he came to power. In Kubizek's biography of Hitler The Young Hitler I Knew, 1953, he recalls how it had a terrifying impact upon Hitler, who left the theater in a state of trance:

"Adolf stood in front of me; and now he gripped both my hands and held them tight. He had never made such a gesture before. I felt from the grasp of his hands how deeply moved he was. His eyes were feverish with excitement .. Never before and never again have I heard Adolf Hitler speak as he did in that hour, as we stood there alone under the stars, as though we were the only creatures in the world. He now spoke of a mission that he was one day to receive from our people, in order to guide them out of slavery, to the heights of freedom .."

Thirty years later, the boyhood friends would meet again in Bayreuth, and Kubizek told Adolf Hitler what he remembered of that night, assuming that the enormous multitude of impressions and events which had filled these past decades would have pushed into the background the experience of a seventeen year old youth.

But after a few words Kubizek sensed that Hitler vividly recalled that hour and had retained all its details in his memory. Hitler's words were unforgettable for August Kubizek:

"It began at that hour ..."

x2ski
07-23-2005, 02:42 AM
This thread sucks because it's depressing.

Piiop
07-23-2005, 02:51 AM
One of my friends only has like 10 teeth left and he's only 22.

When I read "scummiest friend" I immediately thought of him. I know he can't really compare to baby-tosser guy, but his mouth makes me vomit.

kurosh
07-23-2005, 04:10 AM
If anyone I knew did something even remotely close to the two real stories above, I would make sure they die.

krazyace5
07-23-2005, 04:11 AM
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I know a guy who angrily dropped (threw to the ground, actually) a kid while babysitting him. I did not find out the truth of the matter until several years later.

His story was that it was an accident. Several of us wrote eloquent letters to the court describing him as a gentle person who would never do such a thing. In fact, in my letter, I related a story about how he once felt so bad about a dead cat in the road he scooped up the carcass and gave it a "proper burial".

Fastforward a few years and the truth was finally revealed. In a drunken stuper one night his eyes turned psychotic as he related how "the little fucker wouldn't stop crying- plus he had these long, dirty nails that he kept scratching me with". He then proceeded to lose it- throwing the kid to the ground causing him permanant brain damage and loss of eyesight.

The spousal abuse and general predatory sleazyness exemplified by this outwardly appearing "nice guy" are ancillary offenses compared the previously outlined one.

Currently, he is being severely jerked around by a girlfriend and is suffering a deep depression. Hopefully, for societies sake, he will off himself before he gets her.

BTW, he got 6 months work release for his crime- avoiding the million dollar plus civil suit in bankruptcy court (after maxing out his credit cards, naturally).

The kid and his parents got a life sentence.

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Don't need to read any further after this one, this has to be the worst of the worst, if I was the kids dad I would kill this sick [censored].

wacki
07-23-2005, 04:34 AM
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The kid and his parents got a life sentence.

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explain please. Life sentence for parents. I assume this is poetic discourse?

wacki
07-23-2005, 04:38 AM
My scummiest friend?

Well I've had friends that did scummy [censored] and I no longer consider them friends. In fact, if they died I wouldn't shed a tear. However, I do have loose friends that have done scummy [censored]. I have a friend drew that can't control his penis. He had an amazing wife. He cheated on her and then gave her a disease. Outside of sex he is an ok dude. However, he simply can not control his hormones and that is the only reason why I still am able to talk to the guy. Although there are days where I wonder if I still should.

-very drunk wacki

DasLeben
07-23-2005, 04:53 AM
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Unless someone used to be friends with Hilter, I think you win.

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Tja, diese Erzählung ist komisch. Siehst du...es war 1930, und wir zurück vom Pinte kommen. Er sagt, dass er wollt etwas erobern. Ich bin wie... ,,Tut mir Leid...erobern? Was willst du erobern?" So er sagt ,,löl...OMGF...denkst du. Wo sind wir?" Ich sagte ,,umm...Ich denk Europa." Er lacht mehr und sagte ,,Bwahaha. Ja, und es ist nicht nahe. Holla."

Ich weiß noch nicht was "holla" meint, aber der Rest Historie ist.

holla.

-Skeme-
07-23-2005, 04:58 AM
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explain please. Life sentence for parents.

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As in, they'll have to deal with their childs death for the rest of their lives.

wacki
07-23-2005, 05:01 AM
Ich spreche deutsch, und Ich denke "du bist dum".

sehr betrunken wacki

Translation

"I speak german, and I think "you are dumb""

very drunk wacki

wacki
07-23-2005, 05:02 AM
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explain please. Life sentence for parents.

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As in, they'll have to deal with their childs death for the rest of their lives.

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I figured...

Hence the poetic discourse comment. I wanted to hear it from the OP though.

DasLeben
07-23-2005, 05:02 AM
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Ich spreche deutsch, und Ich denke "du bist dum".

sehr betrunken wacki

Translation

"I speak german, and I think "you are dumb""

very drunk wacki

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Ja, ich denk auch so.

Anyways, ignore me. I've been drinking too. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif I probably butchered the [censored] out of the language too.

blendedsuit
07-23-2005, 05:50 AM
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Unless someone used to be friends with Hilter, I think you win.

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Tja, diese Erzählung ist komisch. Siehst du...es war 1930, und wir zurück vom Pinte kommen. Er sagt, dass er wollt etwas erobern. Ich bin wie... ,,Tut mir Leid...erobern? Was willst du erobern?" So er sagt ,,löl...OMGF...denkst du. Wo sind wir?" Ich sagte ,,umm...Ich denk Europa." Er lacht mehr und sagte ,,Bwahaha. Ja, und es ist nicht nahe. Holla."

Ich weiß noch nicht was "holla" meint, aber der Rest Historie ist.

holla.

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Quote translation attempt.
Tja, this narration is amusing. You see coming... it were 1930, and we back from the Pinte. He says that he want something to conquer. I am as..., do to me wrong... conquer? Which you want to conquer?" Thus he says,,loel... COM AP... thinks you. Where are we?" I said,,umm... I think Europe." He laughs more and said, Bwahaha. Yes, and it is not close. Holla." I white not yet which "holla" means, but the remainder of history is.

holla

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Don't be lame.

DasLeben
07-23-2005, 05:55 AM
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Don't be lame.

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Wow, that translator is soooo ghetto. And seriously, nobody likes a joke at the expense of the Nazis? C'mon.

Reef
07-23-2005, 05:56 AM
one of those 'sorta-kinda' friends who you say what's up to in highschool. Always had a huuuge ego and big mouth even though he could never back anything up.

He's in prison now for molesting a toddler girl. Did I mention his parents both died and he was taken in by a family. This same family whose little girl he molested.

Next time I see him, a punch to the throat should do.

hotdog da 2rd
07-23-2005, 06:05 AM
Next time I see him, a punch to the throat should do.

no need, i'm pretty sure the prisoners he's w/ will treat him well.

Reef
07-23-2005, 06:10 AM
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Next time I see him, a punch to the throat should do.

no need, i'm pretty sure the prisoners he's w/ will treat him well.

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he is DEFINETALY gonna be someone's bitch. no doubt

New001
07-23-2005, 06:16 AM
I've been friends with a few guys who would steal mail for credit cards and identity theft stuff from local neighborhoods. Nothing compared to some of these people, though.

wacki
07-23-2005, 06:17 AM
If you still consider this guy a friend, then you are a sack of [censored]. report the dude to the cops and testify.

DarkForceRising
07-23-2005, 08:28 AM
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The kid and his parents got a life sentence.

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explain please. Life sentence for parents. I assume this is poetic discourse?

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Yes, that is correct.

DarkForceRising
07-23-2005, 08:36 AM
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If you still consider this guy a friend, then you are a sack of [censored]. report the dude to the cops and testify.

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Notice that I said, "A guy I know". I no longer consider him a friend. Thanks for turning it around on me, though.

Also, this was almost 10 years ago. I know that I initially said a few years. Time sure does fly. Anyway, he has already been to trial and weasled his way out of any serious time. My reporting him would do nothing.

Seriously, though, thanks again for making me out to be the bad guy.

pokerstudAA
07-23-2005, 11:43 AM
One of my good friends is spending 8 months of quality time in jail. He was getting pulled over by the police late one night and decided to take off. No particularly good reason.

He was chased, flipped his truck, and was taken to the hospital. Truck is completely wrecked. He got some staples in his back. The police put him in a guarded hospital room wih several others. He espcaped anyway. So he walks 5 miles across Houston with his hospital gown on and staples in his back. He makes it home - where he hides out for 2 weeks until the cops stop him for his paper plates and take him in. They charge him with evasion and escape.

This was funny when it happened. He is a really nice guy but probably qualifies as scummy. He just doesnt like the police.

RunDownHouse
07-23-2005, 12:11 PM
I know the general basics of double jeopardy, but not really the specifics. If someone was cleared of, say, murder, and then significant new evidence comes to light, can't they have another trial?

Seriously, I think your karma is going to be pretty [censored] if you don't try to do more to correct this situation.

DarkForceRising
07-23-2005, 01:00 PM
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I know the general basics of double jeopardy, but not really the specifics. If someone was cleared of, say, murder, and then significant new evidence comes to light, can't they have another trial?

Seriously, I think your karma is going to be pretty [censored] if you don't try to do more to correct this situation.

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There is nothing that I can do except for vigiliante type justice. Statute of limitations, my word against his etc... Part of his attorneys angle was the hospital [censored] up. Evidently, if memory serves me, there was some accuracy to this. Those half truths are wicked stuff in capable legal hands.

It has been so long I can't even clearly recall all of the details. Remember, we were drinking when this came out. I was so stunned it was like I didn't even process it completely.

I carry a lot of guilt over a lot of stuff but not this one. There were people closer to the situation at the time it was going down that could have done something- yet they didn't.

I am sure you will be happy to know that I am suffering bad karma from other things.

So let's sum this up. Somebody started a thread and I responded by relating an unfortunate story. So far, I have been called a piece of [censored] and essentially accused of complicity and guilt by association. Flame me anyday- I don't care- but this is way out of line.

RunDownHouse
07-23-2005, 01:20 PM
Trust me, you have nothing but my sympathy. Its horrible you have to go around knowing the truth but being unable to do anything about it.