AA/KK-whats the longest they were losers for you?

[krazyace5]

AA- my last 63 times dealt resulted in a total loss of $63.05

KK-24 times this week for a total loss of $12.07

Whats the longest some of you have gone with these hands in the red?

[DrPublo]

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AA- my last 63 times dealt resulted in a total loss of $63.05

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I don't believe this. What stakes are you playing?

The Doc

[BZ_Zorro]

Longest losing streak: 3 in a row with AA, 4 in a row with KK. These are one offs though, mostly it's a single bit of red in a sea of green. I pick up a lot (maybe half) of pots without showdown.

For comparison:
39K hands at Party(25-200NL, mostly(32K) at 100NL):

AA 168 times, 4.52 PTBB/hand, won 90%
KK 184 times, 2.79 PTBB/hand, won 81%
QQ 179 times, 1.20 PTBB/hand, won 67%

You definitely shouldn't be showing a loss after that many hands...the only possibility is that you're playing them incorrectly. Maybe post a few random losing hands?

[krazyace5]

$50 nl 6 max

I did not lose them all it's just that they all added up to a total loss.

Just rechecked, it was 63 AA for a loss of $40.57

AA dealt 37x just this week for a loss of $22.22

[krazyace5]

Any hand convertors work anymore? I have tried ponks but have no idea how to get the hands into his converter.

[Sephus]

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AA- my last 63 times dealt resulted in a total loss of $63.05

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wow.

I registered for this site specifically to respond to this question.

Have patience: according to Poker Tracker, I am negative $432 with AA in my last 16,000 hands. Anecdotally, 5 of the last six times I have gotten my whole stack in preflop they've been cracked.

Admittedly, some of this negative value was caused by boneheaded pushes up against sets after the flop. But it has been a very long, very bad run.

Hope yours isn't.

[bigt2k4]

its obvious u guys have no clue how to fold these hands, if u think theyre that gr8 and cant fold them after the flop raise huge preflop with them, that will @ least make them profitable for u

[snappo]

Post your biggest losses with AA/KK where most of the money didn't go in preflop.

[Wayfare]

AA 68 times, 82% winrate, 6.79 PTBB/hand
KK 52 times, 84% winrate, 8.71 PTBB/hand
QQ 60 times, 74% winrate, 4.42 PTBB/hand

There is no way you should be losing with these hands if you are playing them correctly.

LOL. I have no clue how to play any hand! That's one of the reasons I've been reading this site.

Huge raises preflop is a good idea. Thanks. I play AA every time trying to get the opponent to commit to going all-in precisely so that I can't get outplayed after the flop. Naturally, this effort fails most of the time and I am frequently outplayed after the flop. That said, 5 out of my last all ins have been cracked, and there have been some legitimate bad beats. Combined with my stupidity (usually in the form of failing to put an opponent on trips) AA has been unprofitable for a while.

I certainly am too new to offer advice, but here recently I have been reminding myself to consider my opponent having a set specifically before I respond to a post-flop raise or reraise. I think it has helped.