One of my favorite situations

[curtains]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t500 (2 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t5030)
Hero (t4970)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero calls t250, BB checks.

Flop: (t750) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t1200</font>, Hero moves allin, BB folds.

Final Pot: t2550


Ok kind of got this to work. This is a favorite move of mine at the $215s. Basically this is a two card flop IMO. 82, I just pretend the ace isn't there.

So ok I bet the flop because they fold too often , by far enough to make it automatically +EV. Once he raises, there is very good chance he doesn't have an 8 or a 2, because these guys can be sophisticated too, and they know I don't have anything. I think that moving allin is a great play here in the right spot.

He will fold so much, very very hard for him to call with a duece, and I suspect some will even fold with an eight. If he has an ace and decided to forgo the +ev preflop push, then congratulations to him.

Anyway I had to show something exciting after my suggestion for the AQo hand where I suggested to check/fold top pair. Whenever I reraise allin with no pair/no draw and it works I'm always happy /images/graemlins/smile.gif

PS - If he has a draw and decided to check min raise me, then congratulations to him also, of course this is a terrible play on his part.

PSS - It's also worth considering a non allin raise, even keeping like 1k-1400 chips, since I can safely fold against an allin with my 7 high no draw.

[johnnybeef]

Do you have any idea how -EV this is? I mean, its one thing to critique a hand, but to reveal a move? Wow....Thanks.

[curtains]

lol, yea Im sure everyone will crush me now.

[johnnybeef]

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lol, yea Im sure everyone will crush me now.

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you know what i meant /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[curtains]

I used to be a lot more open here but there are some things that I've decided finally not to share. I don't think this is that big a deal and it makes me too happy to not share the joy with all of you!

[durron597]

I'm calling you with an 8 here a lot of the time. You didn't raise preflop, and if you actually had the ace you're more likely to call my raise. But this is a very natural play if you had an 8 yourself, and that's probably what I would put you on and act according to that info and my cards.

Hi there,

I am new here but I am wondering how to use the bison hand convertor for the forums with a SNG hand history.

Whenever I press convert it says it does not support my hand history type, however you seem to have got it to work.

Would you mind explaining briefly how to do it?

Thanks!!

[curtains]

Yes I expect to be called by an 8 most of the time, but I still think its +ev. However calling with a duece is really difficult for most opponents. Min check raising with an 8 is a sort of strange play also, but ok if I thought there was a great chance my opponent had an 8 I would not make this play.

[morgan180]

and then you proceeded to berate him about his terrible play. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Apathy]

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Hi there,

I am new here but I am wondering how to use the bison hand convertor for the forums with a SNG hand history.

Whenever I press convert it says it does not support my hand history type, however you seem to have got it to work.

Would you mind explaining briefly how to do it?

Thanks!!

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Go HERE (link) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/postlist.php?Cat=&amp;Board=begin) and comeback when your ready.

[Newt_Buggs]

nh
just curious, why did you complete?

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Do you have any idea how -EV this is? I mean, its one thing to critique a hand, but to reveal a move? Wow....Thanks.


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uhh, he already posted an entire mini step 5 that with aggressive plays similar to this. Curtains obviously isn't too worried about posting these things.

[curtains]

Well Im not going to fold. I dont want to move allin for 10x the bb with 75s, its almost surely -ev once its headsup. I hate to raise to like 1200 and get blown off of a hand that has serious value. So that leaves limping. Of course I limp with strong hands too so you cant just raise everytime I limp.


btw Ive come up with another rule called - beware the third limp. Meaning if someone limps twice and gets moved allin on . The third time they limp there is a much higher liklihood they have a monster. Basically each successive limp the chances are higher. I sometimes check in the BB with quite strong hands after the third limp.

Aren't you nice..

However my question was aimed at curtains who may actually want to help.

[curtains]

Im no help ive used that thing like three times in my life. Also I just brutally sucked out on someone as I was writing this /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Im no help ive used that thing like three times in my life. Also I just brutally sucked out on someone as I was writing this /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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was it me?

[The Don]

Tough call with the duece but I honestly don't think many players are folding the 8 here. I like this play and use it a decent amount myself.

[45suited]

NH Curtains... reading that post reminds me once again how bad I suck at poker. (Good thing most of my opponents suck more.) Thanks alot. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

And now I have to purge that move from my memory for as long as I'm playing the 22s.

[curtains]

lol, no , I dont even know your handles.

[Apathy]

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lol, no , I dont even know your handles.

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Then how do you know it wasn't me? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[curtains]

Because the guy played stupidly preflop, you would have never done what he did.

[Apathy]

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Because the guy played stupidly preflop, you would have never done what he did.

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You win this round gutenburg /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[handsome]

Terrible flop play on villain's part.

[curtains]

It's not terrible. Most players in my spot will simply fold if they have nothing. If this is the case his check raise is +EV regardless of what cards he has. I've definitely min check raised in this spot because I don't give my opponent credit for being able to make a move.