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kasey2004

07-20-2005, 12:32 AM

Just wondering if anyone folds this. 1st hand at table just posted, so obviously no reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 ($83.90)
MP2 ($94)
Hero ($100)
CO ($53)
Button ($202.45)
SB ($113.50)
BB ($82.20)
UTG ($61.90)
UTG+1 ($98.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $2, Hero (poster) raises to $6, 4 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $5, MP2 raises to $94, Hero raises to $100, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($202.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Turn: ($202.50) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($202.50) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $202.50

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Godfather80

07-20-2005, 12:49 AM

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Just wondering if anyone folds this. 1st hand at table just posted, so obviously no reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 ($83.90)
MP2 ($94)
Hero ($100)
CO ($53)
Button ($202.45)
SB ($113.50)
BB ($82.20)
UTG ($61.90)
UTG+1 ($98.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $2, Hero (poster) raises to $6, 4 folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $5, MP2 raises to $94, Hero raises to $100, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($202.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Turn: ($202.50) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

River: ($202.50) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $202.50

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We seem to get a lot of these situations post around here, so let me tell you what the responses will be.

Response 1: "How can you consider folding? No way am I laying down KK here. That all in makes no sense with AA. It will most often be AK or QQ or JJ or something sh1tty.

Response 2: "I've seen this situation at these limits hundreds of times and the villain always seems to have AA. You cannot call here and make money."

For me, I probably fold here without a specific read because of villain's original min-raise and because the games are soft enough for me to make my money in easier spots. But, that's me.

deadmoney98

07-20-2005, 01:09 AM

Never in my life have I seriously considered folding KK preflop, but you should ask yoursefl two questions...

Does my opponent play any hand other than AA this way?

Do I really need that six dollars I put in the pot?

I think the answer is probably no to both.

kasey2004

07-20-2005, 01:20 AM

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Never in my life have I seriously considered folding KK preflop, but you should ask yoursefl two questions...

Does my opponent play any hand other than AA this way?

Do I really need that six dollars I put in the pot?

I think the answer is probably no to both.

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I have no idea what hand he would play like this since it is my post hand and i have never seen him before. But, its not about the $6 in the pot its about the $200 pot im about to play if i call, i realize that i only have $6 in the pot, but there is only one hand that has me beat. once again i have only folded KK once preflop and that was a raise UTG re-raise push push ( i was UTG ). I really couldnt see him doing this with AA though i was thinking QQ, AKs, or the other KK, MAYBE JJ.

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