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dawade
07-19-2005, 02:37 AM
Playing in a live SNG with some buddies and one of my best poker buds (most knowledgeable out of kids my age besides me) and I are involved in a pot. I have AQhearts and the flop comes something like Axx, I can't remember if he checked or I did, but we both ended up all-in going to the turn and river. He does not turn his hand over and he's counting out the chips but he sees my hand and says oh man you got me and he turns over his ace but does not show his other card.

Turn is a blank and around this time he says "I'm dead to a 6" the river comes 8 and I celebrate and begin to grab the chips when he looks at his cards and excited announces "no I have A8 nvm" and turns up the other card, an 8. Everyone at the table seemed to not see what the problem was, but I was pretty upset about this and they told me that the "cards played no matter what was said".

This is probably true, but I was just wondering what would be the line in a situation like this?

I ended up chopping the pot for a net of 180 so I'm really not that mad, but was just wondering. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Alex/Mugaaz
07-19-2005, 02:45 AM
It's a friendly game and he made an honest mistake, cards speak. No reprimand here, at all.

cobalt
07-19-2005, 02:51 AM
Yep, cards speak.

Doesn't matter if the person flat out lies to you, it all comes down to the cards.

07-20-2005, 11:18 AM
Ive played in home games where you had to call your hand, and what you called is what you had, provided you had what you called. For instance, if you made a full house but announced trips when you showed your hand, then trips it was. LMAO, oh to be so young again, lol. Keep in mind back then we played everything from Ace Duece to Jacks or better, follow the queen, guts, etc. In tournament poker, cards play, not whats the player sais. In fact, it is actually the dealers responsibility to decide the winning hand when more than 1 is shown.

EStreet20
07-20-2005, 01:31 PM
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I ended up chopping the pot for a net of 180 so I'm really not that mad, but was just wondering

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He was a douche for only showing one card but how did you chop the pot? He had the best hand and should've had the whole pot. Please explain.

07-20-2005, 02:38 PM
guys an douche bag, good reason to be pissed, had i not split potm i woulda called the pit boss, i would have had the hand overturned by the rule of speculation, the player made a false statement about his hand, this breaks the speculation rule of poker, had he told the truth, he would not have been speculating.
if its not much money its easier to blow this stuff off.

Jailhouse
07-20-2005, 02:38 PM
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I ended up chopping the pot for a net of 180 so I'm really not that mad, but was just wondering

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He was a douche for only showing one card but how did you chop the pot? He had the best hand and should've had the whole pot. Please explain.

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Think he meant the prize pool.

Nottom
07-20-2005, 03:32 PM
That seems like an honest mistake.If he just flipped up an A on the end "knowing" he had 2 pair and waited for you to show and go after the pot before flipping over the 8 like an a$$ then you have more of a right to be upset.

ThinkQuick
07-21-2005, 03:13 AM
umm yah you don't really have any recourse here sorry.
if he overcalls his hand in order to influence a muck or fold then certainly at our casinos his hand may be declared dead, but here he's undercalling his hand at a point where no further action can be taken- he chose to table his hand and it was the best hand so it wins.
just make sure next time he says something like that get him to throw his cards directly into the muck face-frickin-down

Felix_Nietsche
07-22-2005, 12:00 AM
He is just ignorant on poker etiquette.
I would nicely tell him who should not do that in a Vegas cardroom unless he is a glutton for hostility.