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bobbyi
07-19-2005, 12:53 AM
Villain here actually wasn't that unknown, but let's supposed he was. What are you doing on the turn and what are you doing on the river?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 3 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks... Your turn.

Danenania
07-19-2005, 12:56 AM
Bet then check behind on the river. Fold if raised. Too drawy of a board to check.

mperich
07-19-2005, 12:57 AM
Bet and check behind the river. Fold if checkraised. There are too many gutshots that will peel this flop (and maybe this turn), not to mention the flush draw. Checking this turn is criminal.

-Mike

bobbyi
07-19-2005, 12:58 AM
If a blank falls on the river and he bets out, are you calling? Could be a busted flush, but the sort of player passive enough to check-call his draw twice usually isn't a bluffer and it could also be a bigger pair than yours that doesn't want to let you check through.

clownshoes
07-19-2005, 12:58 AM
Id bet the turn and fold to a raise
If he calls and checks again on the river I would check it through

sthief09
07-19-2005, 12:59 AM
the only options are bet-fold, or give up. there are enough gut shots, underpairs that may now fold, flush draws, or plain idiots, that I think you can put in one last bet

Monty Cantsin
07-19-2005, 01:00 AM
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If a blank falls on the river and he bets out, are you calling?

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No.

/mc

Danenania
07-19-2005, 01:01 AM
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If a blank falls on the river and he bets out, are you calling? Could be a busted flush, but the sort of player passive enough to check-call his draw twice usually isn't a bluffer and it could also be a bigger pair than yours that doesn't want to let you check through.

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I usually will call since it looks so fishy unless I have a read that he's not a bluffer.

sthief09
07-19-2005, 01:03 AM
I find it pretty far-fetched that he'd check call twice with a draw then bet out on an AKxxx board on the river after he misses

Danenania
07-19-2005, 01:07 AM
True but it would be kinda weird for him to do that with anything, no?

clownshoes
07-19-2005, 01:08 AM
Yeah, unless you know hes a real dumb shoes, fold to a river bet

sthief09
07-19-2005, 01:09 AM
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True but it would be kinda weird for him to do that with anything, no?

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probably a rivered two pair

wheelz
07-19-2005, 01:11 AM
2+2er with Ax /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Danenania
07-19-2005, 01:18 AM
Yeah I didn't put much thought into that. I guess it should be a fold. Though it will be 6 to 1 by the time he bets and you'll be getting some good info if you keep playing with him for awhile. Eh I'd still probably call.

The main point is it's not going to happen very often and shouldn't deter you at all from betting on the turn which is the important street of this hand.