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DMACM
07-18-2005, 11:35 PM
I make this kind of play all the time with what I tell myself is the last of my FE, but I think its probably one of my bigger leaks. What do you think?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Hero (t840)
CO (t338)
Button (t1423)
SB (t787)
BB (t1270)
UTG (t395)
MP1 (t2947)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds, Hero pushes</font>.

octaveshift
07-18-2005, 11:52 PM
I think this is probably a good push, more often than not.

lastchance
07-18-2005, 11:53 PM
Eek. I'm on the folding side of this, and I think it's pretty clear.

octaveshift
07-18-2005, 11:55 PM
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Eek. I'm on the folding side of this, and I think it's pretty clear.

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I just ran it through SGA.

Even if CO and SB are on maniac settings, it's a push.

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Correction: Both folding and pushing are reasonable with both as maniacs. Move either to "Loose" and it's a push.

Paradigm
07-19-2005, 12:13 AM
ordinarily i think i would muck this hand but since you are pushing into medium-sized stacks i think you have some fold equity so it's a 50/50 push on my part.

lastchance
07-19-2005, 12:14 AM
What is maniac settings? And what'd you put button and BB on?

SammyKid11
07-19-2005, 12:18 AM
Yeah, not looking at other advice first...but I think you've gotta go here. You pay the blinds one more time and you're finished for sure. Here, at least there's a small chance they'll all fold combined with your suckout chances. With seven players still left and you having &lt;5 BB's, I'd say it's go time.

Freudian
07-19-2005, 12:20 AM
This is borderline for me. I'd push A8o and in rare cases A7o. If the BB would be 200 when it hits me next time I might go lower than that.

octaveshift
07-19-2005, 12:22 AM
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What is maniac settings? And what'd you put button and BB on?

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Maniacs: 22+,A2s+,A3o+,KTs+,KJo+,QJs
Loose: 44+,A7s+,A9o+,KJs+
Average: 66+,ATs+,AJo+

I put button and BB on "average."

lastchance
07-19-2005, 12:25 AM
BB's certainly almost always at least a "loose."

Button can be average, though at the $11, that's not likely either.

CO's pretty desperate, and SB's going to have discount as well, though they may not be "maniacs" yet.

octaveshift
07-19-2005, 12:31 AM
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BB's certainly almost always at least a "loose."

Button can be average, though at the $11, that's not likely either.

CO's pretty desperate, and SB's going to have discount as well, though they may not be "maniacs" yet.

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Grrrrr. If they are ALL set to loose, I get "either move is reasonable."

I hereby give up and concede that this is probably 50/50, but I want you to admit it's close.

Come ooooooon. Admit it!

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GtrHtr
07-19-2005, 12:58 AM
Fold.