88 why am I still here?

[prayformojo]

I felt very lost in this hand. Just felt like I should have been doing something more. Whether that something should have been raise or fold, I don't know. Please help me not suck.

UTG seems a solid player after about 90 hands. 26/16/1.8, straightforward with nothing too fancy. I came to the table specifically for CO: 78/1/1.0. Strangely, he bluffs a lot: his low aggression is a result of slowplaying far too often and avoiding value bets.

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Preflop: Mojo is SB with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Button calls, Mojo calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (11 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Mojo bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP folds, CO calls, Button folds, Mojo calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Mojo checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Mojo calls, UTG calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Mojo checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Mojo calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

3 bet preflop?

[Stack]

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3 bet preflop?

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and the flop

[climber]

if you are checking this flop you should be intending to checkraise to get more money in and leading the turn with the probable best hand.

[sthief09]

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3 bet preflop?

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[censored] no

[sthief09]

his low aggression factor is due to him playing every hand. you're nuts if you think you should fold anywhere. I'd 3-bet the flop or lead the turn

[Piz0wn0reD!!!!!!]

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3 bet preflop?

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[censored] no

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[wheelz]

88 OOP the whole hand after a UTG raise and 3 coldcallers? How will 3 betting help you at all?

I'd 3-bet the flop

[kidcolin]

The 3-bet is pretty marginal preflop.

I either 3-bet the flop or stop and go.

[zimmer879]

Having played the way you did, you have to checkraise the turn.

[mungpo]

This is a pretty easy 3-bet on the flop.

[donger]

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This is a pretty easy 3-bet on the flop.

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Yeah, I'm not letting off the throttle until I see an Ace or its get capped.

[iluzion]

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This is a pretty easy 3-bet on the flop.

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Yeah, I'm not letting off the throttle until I see an Ace or its get capped.

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Do you call down if capped or fold turn UI?

[etizzle]

you should really really c/r this turn once it gets checked to the CO.

knocking out UTGs overcards might save you the pot, and he will be getting the right price if you dont raise it.

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I definately 3bet this flop. There is absolutely no reason to fear UTG's raise (I bet this flop hoping for it) and CO just wants to give you his money.

Not only did you say no thanks to CO, but you also offered two players the chance to suck out on your for free on the turn.

Thats pretty terrible, but that's still not the worst thing you did. By far the worst thing you did was entertaining the possibility of folding this somewhere.

It is 16 small bets back to you on the flop, no one has given you any indication that your beat, you have an overpair and its 3-way. If this scenario isnt screaming bet bet bet to you, you are playing way to passively.

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Do you call down if capped or fold turn UI?

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The turn is a clear call if UTG caps the flop (6 clean outs getting better than 10:1).

On the river youd have to evaluate the quality of your read on UTG.

[Subby]

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3 bet preflop?

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I don't think I would be comfortable 3-betting pocket eights with an UTG pf raise and three cold callers already in the pot...just don't see what you are accomplishing by doing that.

[prayformojo]

Villain showed down A4o and MHIG.

Thanks for the replies. I think this is one of the most important areas for me to focus on right now: aggression in multi-way pots. Heads up in SH ring I am aggressive. Multi-way in full ring I am aggressive. Yet for some reason I seem to be shutting down with a few opponents in short handed games.

By the way, pre-flop I'm throwing my hat in with the calling crowd. If anyone thinks that not 3-betting pre-flop in this situation is a significant error, by all means convince me. I'm willing to go on record as saying that, generally, me likey 3-bet, but this doesn't seem the time.