But They're Sooted (suited aces at 3 levels)

[bluewilde]

Four quick hands:

1)

First one is early and an obvious fold, but it makes me ask how low to go with suited aces in levels 1-3. I say AJ...bueno?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

UTG (t785)

UTG+1 (t710)
UTG+2 (t905)
MP1 (t725)
MP2 (t390)
MP3 (t400)
Hero (t775)
Button (t755)
SB (t1770)
BB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t35, UTG+1 calls t35, UTG+2 calls t35.

Flop: (t207.50) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t15</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t85, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds.

Turn: (t437.50) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, UTG+1 calls t100.

River: (t637.50) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t125</font>, UTG+1 calls t125.

Final Pot: t887.50

2) OK...now (level 3) is when I need to start pushing a hand like this, or let the blinds get a little higher?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

SB (t525)
BB (t530)
UTG (t1030)
Hero (t1485)
MP2 (t1710)
CO (t885)
Button (t1835)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t175) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t50</font>, CO calls t50, BB folds.

Turn: (t275) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t125</font>, CO folds.

Final Pot: t400

3) Like here (level 4)...for example, I would want to push?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

CO (t530)
Button (t1105)
Hero (t1185)
BB (t2460)
UTG (t1285)
MP (t1435)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t250) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t100</font>, BB calls t100.

Turn: (t450) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t100</font>, BB calls t100.

River: (t650) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t100</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: t750

4) Or I get blinded down and have to push a hand like this (level 6), right? (BB has been pushing a lot, but letting me get away with my steals, good spot or bad spot?)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) http://216.119.70.224/converter/hhconverter.pl

Button (t1455)
Hero (t960)
BB (t3845)
UTG (t1740)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t760.

Flop: (t1060) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t1060) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1060) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1060

[durron597]

Hand 1) You are in position, call unless you have reason to fear a limp reraise.
Hand 2) Fold, you aren't in position, and your stack is too big relative to the blinds to make pushing +EV
Hand 3) I complete here, button limp is slightly worrisome but you are getting 5:1 so you can't fold (though I fold offsuit aces here)
Hand 4) Ugh. I grit my teeth and push, but I don't like having the big stack on my left.

[bluewilde]

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3) I complete here, button limp is slightly worrisome but you are getting 5:1 so you can't fold (though I fold offsuit aces here)

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Yeah, I felt like somebody was trying to trap the aggressive pusher with a premium hand, so I didn't wanna push and take the bait for him. I was afraid limping was just throwing chips away, you don't think it's a danger to my future FE (even though I did straight...and then flush)? How do you adjust when there's another aggressive pusher and you suspect the other players are trying to trap?

[pokerlaw]

1 and 2 are easy folds. As to hand #3, I might push if I felt the button would lay down his hand after limping - I would need a read though. Of course, i would do that move w/ a LOT worse hands than A4s. i wouldn't just call though, but that is just me - calling isn't bad.

Hand 4 is another read dependent one for me. against the average big stack, I push (assuming my image isn't maniacal), but against a loose one, i fold.

[schwza]

1: easy fold. i'd fold AJs. i'd call AQs.

2: i might open-raise if it were folded to me, but i definitely fold with a limper.

3: if the button is not one of these never-raise guys (i.e., could have AJ), i complete here. i don't like a push because a4s plays pretty badly against any hand that calls you. but the button could be coming in quite light, so i want to play.

4: i'd push. you're going to need to win a hand at some point and you're hand is (a little) better than average. at least it's soooooted.

[bigt439]

1 and 2 are folds. 3 is read dependent, but push or complete could work depending. 4 is an easy push. I think that's a terrible fold and am surprised some people are advocating it.

[bluewilde]

Woops, I didn't fold 4. I pushed and got called by A2, the 2 folds are UTG and Button, converted missed "hero is all-in"

[Uppercut]

Methinks you are second-guessing the pre-flop folds in hands 1 and 3 because you would've ended up with the nut flush both times. Personally, I fold hand 1 100% of the time in level 1. Why? Because mostly you will get in serious trouble when you flop an Ace. As for hand 3, you are getting 5-1, so this is an easy completion, and possibly a push if the button is weak.

[Newt_Buggs]

one and two are easy folds. Whether I would call in hand 1 with AQs is debatable.

for hand 3 completing, pushing, and folding are all reasonable. I don't mind pushing here though.

hand 4 is an easy push and its not close.