View Full Version : Is this rake unbeatable?
bambi
07-18-2005, 12:33 AM
Local casino has 10/20 holdem 10 max, no raking of the pot, however its $1 per hand, they get around 25 hands per hour.
So in an 8 hour session thats $200, or 0.2bb/100
I have played this game and find it very dificult to beat, is this rake structure to much?
How do you work it out?
AaronBrown
07-18-2005, 12:57 AM
For 100 hands, the rake is $100, split 10 ways it's $10 for you, or 0.5 big bets, not 0.2. That's not a bad rake compared to either fixed hourly or percentage numbers. However, like all rakes, it's hard to overcome.
On the other hand, I don't see how the casino can make money earning $25 per hour per table. If the rake is $1 per hand per player, it's too high. No one can make money paying 5 big blinds per 100 hands. Either way, it looks as if someone is losing money here.
bambi
07-18-2005, 03:36 AM
Sorry Aaron thats $1 per hand per player, ie $10 per hand for the casino
Sorry if i didnt make that clear
bobbyi
07-18-2005, 03:38 AM
That's disgusting. $5/half hour is a pretty standard time charge for 10/20. If you are getting around 40 hands per hour, that means that this place is charging four times as much.
alThor
07-18-2005, 10:44 AM
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Local casino has 10/20 holdem 10 max, no raking of the pot, however its $1 per hand [per player], they get around 25 hands per hour.
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What casino is this? Is this in Europe?
This is $10 per round, even if there is no flop!? That's a license to print money if I ever saw one. (But how stupid is this place for only getting in 25 hands per hour, when they earn money by the hand!)
meow_meow
07-18-2005, 12:36 PM
so that's 5BB/100 hands.
Unless everyone else at the table is a complete idiot (and they may well be if they are willing to pay this rake...) you can't beat this game.
autobet
07-18-2005, 07:30 PM
Did you say rake or rape?
At $7 per half hour they would collect $126 per hour
At $3 per hand at 35 hph totals $105
At $5 per hand at 35 hands per hour totals $175
At $9 per hand at 35 hph totals $315
Say they are taking an extra $150 per hour divided by 9 = $16 an hour of your potential profit.
sthief09
07-18-2005, 07:37 PM
it is 5 bb/100, not .2
party 10/20 6m is about 1.4 bb/100. so that's like having to beat the party game for 3.6 bb/100 to make up for it
bambi
07-19-2005, 01:54 AM
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it is 5 bb/100, not .2
party 10/20 6m is about 1.4 bb/100. so that's like having to beat the party game for 3.6 bb/100 to make up for it
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Yeah sorry my math is way off, but how do you work out wether the rake is beatable or unbeatable.
The same casino charges $1.50 per hand for the 5/10 half pot game, what is that like?
sthief09
07-19-2005, 02:49 AM
I'd say if the rake is more than -2 bb/100 it's not worth playing unless it's the softest 10/20 game ever
I don't know what a half pot game is so I can't answer that question.
Alex/Mugaaz
07-19-2005, 02:49 AM
Hey stupid question in wrong forum time. What type of BB/1h is the norm for above average B&M at 5/10? Comparing my WR for bb/100 to 2/5 of that per hour I wonder if these games are worth playing unless it's you and 9 fish.
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