KK and lots of preflop action

[jadducci]

***** Hand History for Game 2382047883 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14033444 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Sunday, July 17, 23:36:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 15126 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: acold2eyes ( $715 )
Seat 2: SuPeR_BaBi ( $1050 )
Seat 3: Timadator ( $800 )
Seat 4: HERO ( $890 )
Seat 5: edddiec ( $645 )
Seat 7: trifili7 ( $2265 )
Seat 8: CohibaIII ( $715 )
Seat 9: Nelson777 ( $920 )
Trny:14033444 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kd Kh ]
>You have options at Table 11529 Table!.
edddiec calls [30].
trifili7 folds.
CohibaIII folds.
Nelson777 calls [30].
acold2eyes calls [30].
>You have options at Table 12061 Table!.
SuPeR_BaBi raises [100].
Timadator folds.
HERO calls [70].
edddiec is all-In [615]
Nelson777 folds.
acold2eyes folds.
SuPeR_BaBi is all-In [950]
HERO folds.

Slightly Tight table, thats about the only read I had. What do you guys do here? I usually call any all in with KK but this one smelled like aces to me.

[jadducci]

Later in the same tourney I called an all in with 10 10 and it was aces!

[wulfheir]

I've never played a $33, I'm still at the $11s.

There, I don't call the 100 raise, I reraise it to ~225. From there I call any all-in, and push any reraise.

That might be why I'm still at the 11s /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[1C5]

Good thinking. Fold KK pf and call and all in pf with TT.

Don't fold KK. It smelled like aces? ha ha ha ha ha good one.

[wookie]

I like your fold, at the time you folded - at that point you had helped create the bad situation you were now dealing with.

Yeah, maybe AA was out there, maybe not. More likely not. Instead of your call, I raise to 300 or 400, more likely the latter. Bet you get called or reraised by AK or even AQ more often than not. You have KK, get your money in there! - w

EDIT: On a few nanoseconds reflection, realizing it is early, I like the 250-300 raise instead - though if the button pushes I probably call. Life is short.

[Fatdogs12]

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There, I don't call the 100 raise, I reraise it to ~225. From there I call any all-in, and push any reraise.



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No I definitely agree with that except I would probably do a 175 or 200 bet in that if an ace flops I can get away a bit cheaper. In this situation I would probably fold to the reraise, I just hate to be all in against two other people here. Against an underpair and an Ax you are a bit over 50% to win it. That means in these situations a little less than half the time you will lose out on the chance to place.

For me it's a annoying fold but one I prefer.

[jadducci]

I usually raise preflop with KK but with the first raiser I thought I could see the flop, and let him bet and then re-raise as long as it was ace free.

[Fatdogs12]

Got to bet that though for a lot of reasons. Bet more, you want them to know you got something

If i were you i would of bet atleast the ammount of the pot. You have 2nd best hand and too many people in it to be comfortable, even if they fold you still get a few chips to sit on still early in the tourney. I suspect he was scooping blinds while somewhat low stacked. What kind of hands was he showing down, solid better, a little more info on this "ed" guy might help a little. Anywho,even early in these tourneys people like to go all in with an AK AQ so even if u did call you woulda had him down to close to 20%. sorry if sentence structure and spelling are not great, im tired and hope i helped with my input.

[chisness]

i push when it gets to me first preflop and would call in the spot you get into

[diconoclastx]

Don't fold this preflop. Many times you'll see the UTG limper guy has AK.

[11t]

I once told myself that I am never folding KK preflop at these limits unless it is to some limp/re-raise from a player I have a good read on.

I'd call but I'd register for another tournament as I clicked the call button.

[raptor517]

kings suck out on aces 40% of the time anyway. get yer money in. holla

[kuro]

You give people entirely too much credit. You'll flip over KK and one tard will have AJs and the other will have 55 because they "knew" each other was "bluffing". Half your table has no clue how to play when the blinds are small. You shouldn't be thinking this smells like aces but rather I'm going to be chip leader and run the table.